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Dead genres? + a display bug?

[[Category:Genre/JPop]] is now empty, but there is no Special:MovePage link on it, so I'm asking you, either a redirect to [[Category:Genre/J-Pop]] or a plain delete would work. This is just a question of custom of course, but I'd get rid of it unless you want people (in the future obviously) looking up songs by category and ending up in one of two equivalent categories. (p.s. do you like my new sig?)

I think I caught a bug? [[Genre/JPop]] works but [[Category:Genre/JPop|Genre/JPop]] or [[Category:Genre/JPop]] clearly doesn't. (You should see a Category:Genre/JPop link, only internal) Or maybe it's a preview bug? -- --  Sscout    talk    contribs    ♫   23:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

[[Category:Genre/JPop]] adds the page to the category, but doesn't display a link; to have it the other way around, use [[:Category:Genre/JPop]] (note the colon). I've deleted it, redirects shouldn't be used with categories. Pity we can't define aliases for cats… Maybe with MW 2.0… :-) That's also the reason why there isn't a move tab – all pages would still be in the original category anyway. — 6x9 (Talk) 00:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Am I somehow slow or does a page exist that actually explains about the leading colon thingy? LOL (sigh)-- --  Sscout    talk    contribs    ♫   00:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sure it exists somewhere. When you find it, let me know :-) Wikipedia's help pages might be your best bet for general wiki stuff; ours concentrate mostly on LW-specific things (and we still have a hard enough time keeping them up-to-date. Well, Red does, since we let her do all the work on them). — 6x9 (Talk) 00:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
You let me eh? I was helping Kiefer with writing them ol' help pages when you was still "an average user". I was going to say "still in short trousers" but seeing as you are older than me and German it didn't seem appropriate. Do old men wear Lederhosen? Anyway here we go: Help:Categories  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
P.S. And I apologize most profusely Sean for the abuse of colour on your talk page. Me and 6x9 are currently giving Sscout private tuition in the ways of the wiki signature ;)

spam detection false positive

I tried to add the CD C I V I L W A R (2008) to Dillinger Four, but a spambot stopped me. It got set of because the third song has the name of the heiress to the Hilton estate in it. I have now entered it as "isametaphor". Could you please fix this? Thank you. Mtijn 20:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for letting me know! -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 23:12, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Captcha

When you've got a minute could you answer this post as you are likely the only one who can. Thank you.  Яєdxx Actions Words 01:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Red. Responded there. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 02:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Album cover questions

  1. Is it possible to automatically insert a blank {{Albumcover}} template into the summary box of the upload page (similar to the album etc. auto-templates)? That should reduce the number of uncategorized files greatly.
  2. Would it be a good idea to include the fair-use blurb in the template? Because most users (including myself) regularly forget to add it…Green check

There's also a discussion on the community portal about what the maximum allowed image size should be. — 6x9 (Talk) 18:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I recently brought the subject up of an auto-template for image uploads here and was told that you were the person to nudge on the subject, so here's my friendly reminder. Hope things aren't too busy for you. I also want to give you compliments (whether it's because of you or not), it seems the "move enormous amounts of pages to ridiculous pages" spammers have stopped. --WillMak050389 21:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
@Red – errr… #1 is done? Since when? And how come the summary field is still blank when I hit upload? — 6x9 (Talk) 01:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
I misunderstood. Haven't you got to be somewhere? ;)  Яєdxx Actions Words 14:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Updating  ;)

Not as bad as this page though LyricWiki:News..And come to mention it, do you think it's slightly inappropriate for us to still have "Happy New Year" on our Main Page? Especially as we might be getting a whole bunch of new visitors after that write up? ;)  Яєdxx Actions Words 04:33, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Good call. Finally after the upgrade, there was something reasonable to replace it with - done. Thanks for the suggestion!
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 01:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Errors from SOTD update at 07:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Could not parse a page name out of
'''Song: [[Metallica:Welcome Home (Sanitarium)]] '''<br/>
'''Nominated By: [[User:BLMJX|BLMJX]]'''<br/>
'''Reason:''' Off of one of [[Metallica|the band's]] best albums, ''[[Metallica:Master Of Puppets (1986)|Master Of Puppets]]'', this song is amazing. It shows the band's capability, starting light and getting progressively heavier. A great representative of the [[:Category:Genre/Thrash Metal|thrash metal]] genre. {{audio|22822b0}}

-ÜberBot 07:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Figured out the problem and fixed it in ÜberBot. Other users fixed the actual side-problems. In the future if ÜberBot can't find the page title, he won't try to put a badge on the Main Page, lol. Oops.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 16:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


de ja Moove

Since the upgrade to MW 1.14, all page moves create a redirect, no option. Is this not going to add 100's of pages daily to Special:Linkstoredirects? cheers ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 23:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow, yeah that definitely appears to be a side-effect. I was going to make a slight tweak to Special:Linkstoredirects to have it show the total number of links remaining, but that query takes over a minute. Right now the number is 56,812. It looks like the only good way to handle that page is gonna be a bot. I'll probably get to it at some point (maybe when I write the HiddenLonelyPages special page?).
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 04:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Hidden Lonely pages would be really, really cool. Can Special:Linkstoredirects be added to the Special:RefreshSpecial?

{{User:EchoSierra/Signature}} 05:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


Happy Birthday, Sean!

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Sean Colombooo. Happy birthday to youuuuuuuuu! (unbelievably high note) --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   17:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

 :D Thanks! -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 20:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Birthday cake2Happy Birthday Sean! Present 21 again huh? Wink3

Hope you've been having a good one!
 Яєdxx Actions Words 22:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, yes. 21 sounds good :) -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 03:19, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Trusted

Hi. May you add me to trusted group? It's hard to edit many pages with captha. I'm Wikipedia sysop and have some wiki skills =) — putnik 16:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. And it's one more problem. I don't know, will be this with trusted group or not, but when I was only in users group, spam filter stop me when I wrote word like "complete", "gold", "silver", "trusted" in summary. I think that it's not good. — putnik 17:04, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. yeah, that's annoying. I'll have to keep an eye on the spam filter to see what's up. I think it might be one-word summaries that are a problem, but I'll check into it.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 05:05, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


Spam spam spam spam spam spam spam

I feel sick now ;) Ok well as you know from the talk page, it's getting a bit out of hand so I think we are looking to see if we can do more to prevent this. One idea I had was a captcha to prevent bots. 6x9 has noticed some similarities. And Will and Rainbow Dragon are both doing their best to keep up. But yesterday I think Will had to revert 500 edits..if I understand his post correctly. Anyway, that aside, is there any way you could add a "contributions" link to ip addresses so that we can access these when we are patrolling edits?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 07:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

There are contribution links in the watchlist, in recent changes, in history… for both IPs and registered users. Aren't these enough? — 6x9 (Talk) 15:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
No ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 04:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
This appears to be resolved. The spam/vandal is a bit more under control for now, and the upgrade to MediaWiki 1.14 seems to have also had this feature in there (links to contributions on the IP addresses when showing a diff of an edit you are patrolling) if I'm understanding correctly what you were asking for.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 05:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Songtexte.com

Hi! Sorry for being a snitch, but Songtexte.com steals lyrics from LyricWiki (though at least they say it).

I don't know if that's unwanted or not, just wanted to say that.--KaputteMenschen 17:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's kinda a weird situation. They use all of the lyrics through the API (and the API is public so it's technically legit but seems a little sketchy)... but then one of the guys (Fuzy) who makes Songtexte also helps out around here and even made an upgrade to the API, lol. It's weird. Thanks for the heads-up though.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 21:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Just wanted to show you..

This.. rfl and this Яєdxx Actions Words 13:35, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Hadn't seen that first one yet. I would think that most ppl would include some sort of attribution when they use the API, but at the moment there is no requirement. In general, I try to ignore that, but from what I understand it hurts your pagerank a ton when there are pages with the exact same text on them - so people won't be able to find our good lyrics as quickly using search engines because everywhere that uses them (including us) gets penalized. :/ hrmm.
Anywho, thanks for the head's up -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 14:52, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Da Filter

I recently tried to move a couple of Kid Cudi pages and was blocked by the spammo filter. I basically created the pages manually, which was allowed, strangely enough. Aren't admins exempt from the spam filter?    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   19:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The same just happened to me… I managed to move the page the first time, but messed up, and when I tried to move it again, this message popped up. Since I doubt that the word "Alright" triggers the filter, there must be some bug here… — 6x9 (Talk) 20:37, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, that's annoying. I'll figure out what's up & fix it. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 20:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so I was looking into how we could add a hook to make it ignore moves also (right now, the spam filter is skipped for admins on page edits), but I was talking with some MediaWiki guys and one of them made a really good point that text which we can edit into a page but which gets filtered pretty much makes the page unusable for other ppl (they can't edit anything in the same section as the banned phrase and can't even add a new section apparently). So whenever possible, I'm going to try to make it so that we just make our spam regex more appropriate. I haven't removed the extension which bypasses admins for page-editing yet, but I'm leaning towards doing that eventually. It would probably be a little bit of an annoyance for a while, but on the bright side, we'd probably have less weird reports where users can't edit pages and don't know why.
Anywho... for this specific change (and many of the other problems the spam filter has been giving ppl) I found the regex that I'm pretty sure was tripping people up. It made sense in relation to page edits, but it definitely didn't make sense when applying the that same regex to summaries. So that page moves around now and most of the other instances of the filter getting in your way should be fixed.
If you see the spam filter getting in your way, please let me know what page (and what your summary was) so that I can try to make the spam-filter make more sense :). Thanks!
And thanks for reporting this... it actually helped solve several related complaints about the filter,
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 01:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Label Question

"Label/Universal Music Group" and "Label/Universal Records" are the same? How do you know which one it is if you just want to add "Label/Universal"? Especially after you see this The Universal Motown/Universal Republic Group -- --  Sscout    talk    contribs       01:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

My current understanding is that UMG is a publisher, not a label and that one of the labels which UMG owns is Universal Records.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 03:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
No fair, how come you can follow me but I can't follow myself (rodrigosz and sscoutistaken) on twitter (i.e. I can't find myself :P).

On something else, have you seen this? FMA The Free Music Archive offers free downloads under Creative Commons and other licenses. Please visit the track page to discover what you can and cannot do with each track.-- --  Sscout    talk    contribs       22:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks neat! Thanks for the info. I sent them a quick message, hopefully they'll integrate with LyricWiki a bit in the future (and vice-versa). -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Two Server-side requests

Hey Sean, I have two requests that only you control.

  1. There is another kind of page that we might want to consider auto-detecting (via regex): Soundtrack, compilation albums. They look like /([^:]*)\s\((\d{4}))/, e.g. The Beavis And Butt-Head Experience (1993). They use {{Album/Soundtrack}}. Can we add this to the definition of auto-detect?
  2. Can we talk about subpages? ([1]) These have to be enabled in LocalSetting.php with a $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true;. I know it's a big discussion to have that for the main namespace, but I'm asking for Help and Templates. Do you think we could do that?

--Aquatiki - T - E 03:19, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

  1. Good idea... still have to implement it (bold so I see it every time I come to this page).
  2. Done for Help & Templates
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 22:41, 8 August 2008 (EDT)
Thanks, Sean. Glad to see you got us back up! There were several hours there where I didn't know what to do with myself! ;-P --Aquatiki - T - E 12:33, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
It would be helpful to just include a link to the template in the box that says "Note: we have guessed...". This will be a step towards implementing the auto-detection and be very helpful. ♫ LYRIC-Humbug wordsdeeds 06:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
PS: /([^:]*)\s\((\d{4})\)/ :P
Judging by the code on the example page (and the red-link on the template), it looks like we've migrated away from {{Album/Soundtrack}} to just using the same album template and passing "type = soundtrack" into the header.
Since that task is no longer relevant and the other one was done a while ago, I'm finally archiving this convo.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 15:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

{{Artist}}

I am sorry to hear that you were not feeling well, I hope that you feel better soon.
I am posting, because the artist magicword needs to be tweaked. Currently an artist template with now fields will not act like an artist template, but rather a magicword. I think the solution is make the magicword all caps only (ARTIST not artist). Hopefully it's an easy fix.
King_Nee1114 (talk pagecontributionsdeletions) 08:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Adding case-sensitivity to one magicword and not the others would be a bit confusing... I think more confusing than having a template that turns into a magicword when completely empty (that one is pretty weird too though, isn't it?). Right now I think I'll just leave it as-is. Hopefully that kinda forces ppl to use parameters in the template too, or at least type out blank params which then make it easier for other ppl to fill in. It's all quite strange, but I don't think there is any way to do this without any confusing since the magic-word and template syntax is the same.
Thanks for bringing it up though,
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 15:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Artists in song names

When you have a minute... [2] tia ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 04:16, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Yay! Finally fixed it :) -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 15:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Batch Moves

Is there any way you could amend the above to allow for brackets? [3]  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 08:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused about what's going on there. Are the brackets or parentheses stopping the move? I clicked through on one of the pages being skipped and it looked like the reason it was being skipped was that the source page was a redirect to the destination page. I'm probably missing something though.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 16:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
No you're right but what you're missing I think is that these pages were all moved (manually) after I left you this post, i.e. before you looked at them. That having been said, the pages were initially all Blue October, then they was moved to Blue October (US) and then I was trying to Batch Move them back. So yes redirects from the previous move probably does explain this one.
But there is a problem on batch moving artists that I am aware does exist, and in particular when trying to move Japanese artists. Echo explained to me that this occurs when the names incorporate brackets/parentheses/symbols - take your pick, it's multiple choice ;) - knowing this probably made me draw the wrong conclusion.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:34, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
If there are "()" on the left side of the batch move, they have to be escaped just like in regex, artist (blah) should be typed as artist \(blah\). The right side doesn't need escaping. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 16:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Ok thanks. So theoretically, if I wanted to move Red October (US) to Blue October (UK) I can do it providing I enter it with slashes, i.e.:
Red October \(US)\ <<-to-->> Blue October (UK) ?
 ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 17:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Red October \(US\) <<-to-->> Blue October (UK) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 17:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Ooops yes he walked off ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 17:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

String extensions

So, [4] and [5]… any chance of installing these? Just imagine: no more cleaning up after wrongly detected fLetters… no more bot runs to fix links after batch moves… Does your mouth water yet? — 6x9 (Talk) 17:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

The Regex extension looks like it's barely used and lets ppl just put arbitrary regexes in. That might be a bit dangerous. The StringFunctions extension looks pretty cool but isn't used on Wikimedia sites yet because it has some performance issues. It looks really promising... hopefully someone can help iron out the slowness. I'm looking into it too at random points, but I think the guys who wrote the extension are most likely to fix it first.
Performance is pretty important there since we'd probably use it for fLetter which is on nearly every page.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 22:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, fLetter might be difficult without regex. We'd either need a way to convert characters to decimal values (if there's an extension for that I haven't found it yet) and use #ifexpr for ranges, or use #switch and list all Chinese, Japanese and Korean characters… which would make for a rather large template, I fear. — 6x9 (Talk) 18:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
That's a bummer. The need for only running ridiculously fast code is one of the problems with having a ton of traffic I guess. Still a good problem to have. I'll keep my eyes open in case something else pops up which could let us do fLetter. Alternatively, I guess we could make a parser-function specifically for fLetter at some point.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 16:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Links to Redirects glitch?

the left column gone missin! Special:Linkstoredirects ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 22:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for the head's up! (Apparently sometimes the from_id is empty, and when that happened, the query got messed up). -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 00:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Translations (and other suggestions)

Hi!

I think a translation should have its own page, instead of being directly on the page of the song.
I think the idea of the translation next to the original text is good though, but the problem is that for people who just want to read the original lyrics, the translation(s) might be quite annoying. Also, it's very difficult to put translations for more than one language right next to the original (see Duffy:Mercy, maybe you see what I mean). My suggestion is to make for translations of a song a sub-page, for example "/English Translation" or "/Spanish Translation", but I can't tell if it would be better to give the translation sub-pages english or native language names (i.e. "/Spanish Translation" vs "/traducción española"). The available translations could be showed in a box below or above the lyrics or - similar to Wikipedia - in a language box (to the left of the article, but maybe that's not obvious enough).
I wanted to make a template for that, in order to show you what I mean, but frankly, I'm too lazy/dumb atm and also intended to make the inclusion of the template look like {{AvTrans|de|es|it}} and then on the template use something like {{#language:es}} to display the native name of the language, but then I realized that without modifying the MediaWiki-code or writing an extension it's impossible to pass the template an undefined amount of arguments. You see, I'm a pretty bad programmer, since I can't really structure my ideas/thoughts/mind.

And because of that reason there are other things I want to say, but I don't really know how, so I'll just make a list without going into detail:

  • by selecting another language also change the uselang-argument (index.php?title=Page&uselang=xx), for clean URLs maybe xx.lyricwiki.org. Translation of the templates and other often used phrases
  • Make the title of the page easier to read. The current design of the page URL like "Artist:Song Name" is okay IMHO, but the title on the page itself could be changed to sth like "ArTist - Song name" (official capitalization) or make a line break between the artist and the song name and maybe different formatting.
  • Easier addition of songs/albums (own form, only usage of the edit-tab if really necessary) and automatic sorting of albums by publication date.
  • Audio and video also addable from other sites, not only YouTube and GoEar ("liberalization" of the object-tag could be dangerous, sth like a whitelist could be a solution)
  • If there's a YouTube-"Video" of the song , but it's not the official one (like instead of a video only the cover or the lyrics), make it possible to give the videoID, but only show the audio (more or less like the guy at robsite.net did).

Sorry for writing that much in just one entry and sorry if most of what I wrote was already suggested or you already had the idea to do that (and sorry for all those easy-to-say-hard-to-make-suggestions and the looking-to-distant-future-suggestions). And sorry for saying so often sorry. And sorry for maybe sounding like an asshole, it's hard to pass intonation over written text.--KaputteMenschen 17:13, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm starting a thread on the Help_talk:Translations page (here) about the weirdness of translations on the same page sometimes.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 18:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Redirected Lyrics

Searching for "The Pretenders:Brass In Pocket" using the API and it returns a mergeto / redirect message to "Pretenders:Brass In Pocket" instead of the lyrics. Is this correct? (If so I can code around it locally, but it seems to me that should be handled by the API). - Britburn 04:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's not something you should have to code around locally. It turns out it was just a bug on our end with the page. {{mergeto}} doesn't make sense after the content of the page is gone, just the redirect should be there, so I've fixed the page. Thanks for reporting that.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 11:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Another obscure title for you to mull over ... Here ... I can't seem to return a match on that, do I need to leave the quotes in when I remove the punctuation from the title search string? Or perhaps it's thrown out by the upper case once the punctuation is removed?
While I'm here, how would you prefer title AKA's to be handled - For example Sheena Easton - Morning Train (Nine To Five) was simply entitled 9 To 5 in the UK? At the moment I've set up the new title and redirected it to the existing page.
I'm slowly starting to work through all 6,377 UK chart single entries from the 80s, so expect a few more strange ones as I go :o)
- Britburn 19:01, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at so many pages! :) And you were right, redirects are the best way to handle that. The rest of the remaining issues are aggregated below.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 04:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Another small couple of API anomalies - Firstly, where you've stripped the text following brackets () in a song title, if the song title actually begins with a bracket then the API returns the text from the artist page. For example;
Eddie Holman - (Hey There) Lonely Girl returns the Eddie Holman wikitext.
Perhaps you can start your search after the first character?
Secondly, can you handle the instrumental template to return text rather than the whole {{ thing?
Britburn 23:01, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Another one: [[6]] Seems to be a problem with case-sensitivity. Regards (Fuzy 18:03, 1 November 2008 (UTC))
Looked at this again. RECAP! Problems are:
  1. M*A*S*H
  2. another M*A*S*H
  3. Third M*A*S*H
  4. AC/DC Rock 'n' Roll this appears to work now
  5. Check on songs which START with left-parentheses. They should be a special case.
After trying to fix it, it appears that it's not just capitalization of a redirect for the AC/DC thing. Something else is going on.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 04:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Update: added Ich + Ich from an email from Fuzy.
Fuzy is working on this & even if he lets it sit for a while, since it's just a bug that affects a very small percentage of API requests, I don't think I'm ever going to get to it (there will always be something more urgent). So I'm finally archiving this section.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 00:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Implied Redirects

Great idea! Will probably save us many new page creations for wrong artists… But there's a bug: when you try to open a song or album page for an artist that doesn't exist (say The Tests:Some Song) the layout gets all wonky, and several error messages appear at the top:

Notice: Undefined variable: titleStr in /var/www/html/lyricwiki.org/extensions/LyricWiki/lw_impliedRedirects.php on line 65
Notice: Undefined variable: titleStr in /var/www/html/lyricwiki.org/extensions/LyricWiki/lw_impliedRedirects.php on line 77
Notice: Undefined variable: titleStr in /var/www/html/lyricwiki.org/extensions/LyricWiki/lw_impliedRedirects.php on line 98

I'm afraid this could scare off some users… — 6×9 (Talk) 21:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see this happening... do you still see this? -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 22:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Nope, it's gone… Very odd. I did make sure to test it on several pages first. Gotta love problems that fix themselves :-) — 6×9 (Talk) 22:07, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Legal Lingo

Sean Can you please take a look at this [7]. I think I had grounds for keeping the translation...and I think we all need to know what to do in similar cases. thanks. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 18:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

As strange as it seems (and this is all in a gray area again), but it appears that the accepted rule is currently that translators have the copyright to their translations (unless they enter them into a wiki which GPLs their stuff, lol). So unfortunately, I think we should honor this person's request to delete the translation, but I also think we should follow up by making our own translation (by slapping a Request For Translation template on there).
Side-note: Interestingly, even the music publishers say that translators own their translations, and yet they don't think transcribers in native languages own theirs? A confusing double-standard, but basically it has to go to court before anything can be known for (closer to) sure.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 20:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Sean. Done. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 23:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

User Complaint Regarding Ring Tone Ad

Sean, please see the complaint at the Help Desk regarding ring tone ads and spamming. --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   16:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Eww, gross. Responded there. Thanks for bringing this to my attention RD! -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

LyricWiki:Top 100

I noted some red links on Main page so thought I'd redirect to songs. The redirects are Ok, but if you click on the song title on main page, e.g. Eminem:We Made You (Single Version) or on the Top 100 page, e.g. Pitbull:I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho), the page opens in edit mode. Why?  Яєdxx Actions Words 23:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Howdy,
When you clicked the link to the song, was the link still red? If the link is red, then the actual link adds some stuff to the url to tell it to open in edit mode. Since the Top 100 is cached and creating redirects doesn't change the page itself, the cache doesn't refresh unless you hit the page with action=purge. If you do that, it should turn the red link blue & it'll open correctly. Generally I'll make a couple of fixes at once, then do the action=purge thing. Here is a link to refresh the Top 100. The page takes a while to reload because it has to look at all 200 links to see if they exist (100 artists, 100 songs).
Hope that answered your question,
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 23:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
G'day Well if you're a cowboy, I'm Australian today
Yep, sorted thank you. I'll remember the purge thing. The page didn't take long to reload either.  Яєdxx Actions Words 01:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

How can I become a trusted?

Hi! How can I get the rights of a trusted user to avoid the captcha? I work on lyricwiki for a long time, and have plans to continue with my parallel work in wikipedia... cheers! --manydays 06:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops. You shouldn't have been seeing CAPTCHAs still given the amount of edits you've done and how long you've been registered. There was a typo (my fault) fixed now. If you're still seeing CAPTCHAs, let me know.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 13:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Dead-end pages & Orphaned Pages showing duplicates

Probably minor glitch but every page in Dead End Pages and Orphaned Pages has two entries. cheers ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 07:28, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that was pretty weird. I ran Special:RefreshSpecial on DeadEnd pages and it fixed it. Orphaned was already fixed by the time I got there. Strange.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 13:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
I noticed both after Running SRS, should've run it another time before notifying you ;) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 13:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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