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Please see Page Names. tia. --ES (talk) 23:04, February 19, 2018 (UTC)

Display title versus Page Names

Please see Correction --ES (talk) 01:40, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

The Discussion

Moved from my Talk page, since this is all for you Please add any further responses at the bottom


I was adding some albums of Agnetha Fältskog, and then you blocked me. Reason: Please read your talk page. I read it and honestly, I didn't understand, my English is not so good, and the talk page is too long. There were too many things to read and discover what I failed.

Could you tell me exactly the reason why I got blocked?

I'm not sure, but I think because I didn't capitalize correctly. I inspired on this album:

I didn't upload it, but as you can see, is not capitalized on all the words, just the fisrt letter of each song. So, I though I should do the same. Do I have to capitalize every first letter of every word to do it well?

I insist: I don't know what I did wrong. Could you tell me exactly why you blocked me?


--Psicosomatico (talk) 23:15, February 20, 2018 (UTC)

I wrote a note on your talk page, prior to blocking you, and that was prior to correcting the pages you had created. The block was to bring your attention to LW:PN#Capitalization, specifically, this section:
All words, regardless of whether the artist capitalize that letter or the language's grammar says it should be lower case, must have their initial letter capitalized.
This issue applies to all page names: Artists / Albums / Songs, and it is indicated on your Profile page (and every other user profile page):
Important: LyricWiki breaks some of the usual capitalization rules for artists, albums, and song titles. Since this applies to all languages using the Latin alphabet, please be sure to familiarise yourself with our policy by reading LyricWiki:Page Names.
hth --ES (talk) 23:29, February 20, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for anwering.
Then, summarizing, and as far as I understood, I must change every non-capitalized first letter of every word of the albums that I uploaded, and upload new albums with the first letter of every word capitalized. Am I right?
I'm new here, and as you noticed, I forgot to put a subject in my previous message. I'm not familiar here yet.
But why the album I showed you was not correctly capitalized? This one:
Sorry, I don't know how to reply you directly from your previous message.
--Psicosomatico (talk) 00:14, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
True: First letter of every word of every song / album / artist page must be capitalized.
A correction on terminology: we don't upload albums, we create them. Only Album covers & artist photos are uploaded.
I did not refer to Agnetha Fältskog:Elva Kvinnor I Ett Hus (1975) at all, because the page has no relevance to what i noted on your talk page. The album page is correctly capitalized.
However please note that the correct Swedish caps for that album title is Elva kvinnor i ett hus, which is how it is indicated in the {{AlbumHeader}}'s title, and is the preferred format for the album art, as a general rule (Album art file names are not covered by LW:PN). hth --ES (talk) 00:36, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
What I meant showing you that Agnetha Fältskog's album, is that it does not have all the songs capitalized in all their words, just the first word of every song is capitalized. And that's why I got confused and I made the same, based on it.
Also, I didn't know that thing about the albums headers. Some ones appear capitalized, some others don't.. It's a mess.
Well, at least I know the most important rule about capitalization now. I will continue making contributions, I'm afraid of making mistakes with the headers..
And sorry again to make you edit my responses over and over again. This section needs a "reply" button urgent, for people who doesn't know how to respond from the code.
--Psicosomatico (talk) 01:26, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
If you look at that album page in edit mode, the first part of each song link follows the Page Naming rules (the first part is the Page Name), but the second part, after the "|" (the display title) follows the rules of the language...
# '''[[Agnetha Fältskog:En Egen Trädgård|En egen trädgård]]'''
And please note that I reverted your edits to Agnetha Fältskog page: You changed the display title of the songs, which are to remain in Swedish caps. --ES (talk) 01:38, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I read your editions in my Talk Page. I was checking the code of some albums/songs in English, such like this:
And the display title is capitalized except the articles in the middle. So, display titles in Swedish must not be capitalized, and only in English must be? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Psicosomatico (talkcontribs).
For language specific style guidelines, please see MB Styles --ES (talk) 02:15, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
Not that I wish to confuse you any further, but for English, per MB English:

All words in a title should have their first letter capitalized and following letters lower case except as noted below:
(1) Always capitalize the first and last word of a title. This rule should be followed even if the words would normally be lowercase according to the other rules. If a title is broken up by major punctuation (colon according to subtitle style, question mark, exclamation mark, em-dash, parentheses, or quotes), capitalize each distinct piece of the title as if it were a distinct title. Therefore, for example, always capitalize the first and last words of each section.
(2) Between the first and last word of a title Capitalize all words except:

(a) Articles: a, an, the
(b) Coordinate conjunctions: and, but, or, nor
(c) Short prepositions (three letters or less): as, at, by, for, in, of, on, to, but, cum, mid, off, per, qua, re, up, via -- except when used as adverbs or as an inseparable part of a verb (as in "Plug In Baby" or "Shine On You Crazy Diamond").
(d) When used to form an infinitive: to

(3) In compounds formed by hyphens, capitalize each part exactly as if they were a separate word.
(4) Capitalize contractions and slang consistent with the rules above to the extent that such clearly apply. For example, do not capitalize o' for "of", 'n' or n' for "and".
--ES (talk) 02:29, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Ok. Let's do the final test. Next few hours/days I'll continue adding the lyrics and the videos for the album I left pending. And then, I'll continue contribute with some more albums of the same artist, in Swedish at the moment. I think I get it now.
The only way to learn something is to take the risk and to do it. If I do something wrong, just warn me. But I'll follow myself watching the codes you edited on the other albums, in Swedish.
Left side: all first letters of all the words capitalized | Right side: only the first letter capitalized (just an easy summary to remember in Swedish).
I'm not thinking about adding songs in English yet.
Thank you very much for your time, info, and attention.

--Psicosomatico (talk) 02:39, February 21, 2018 (UTC)

Instead of manually creating any track lists, please see LyricWiki_talk:Community_Portal#System_for_custom_scripts_now_available, and save yourself loads of time. The Wikifyer tool creates properly formatted track lists... --ES (talk) 02:47, February 21, 2018 (UTC)
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