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Please, read LyricWiki:Page names for capitalization policy. Each word in page names should be capitalized. --Unaiaia (talk) 08:14, 15 January 2007 (EST)

Yea, I know - I will take care of it. I just can't take care of anything at the same time, so I often do such things when I'm finished and look over it again. Thanks anyway.
And another thing why I do it this way is the following big advantage: When I first create a page for a song/album/artist under the real name and move it later to the place where it's got to be, then there will be a redirect from the real name to this page "automatically".
Of course from time to time there will be a song or a link that slips through - you are very welcome to fix those...:-)--Speckmade 08:17, 15 January 2007 (EST)

Cover Template

Good catch on the Help page, regarding the cover template. In the future, please comment on the discussion page (the tab next to the edit tab at the top) as opposed to within the help page itself, that way you won't have to worry about the gremlins that duplicate sections on that page for some reason! (Don't understand myself.) Evil gremlins! --Kiefer 15:06, 15 January 2007 (EST)

Second parameter in Category

Can somebody tell me why obviously some people add a second parameter (or however it is called/whatever it is) in those "categorization links" on genre-pages, for example [[Category:Genre|Folk Rock]] in the sourcecode of Category:Genre/Folk Rock, why is that Folk Rock after the pipe symbol (|), what is it for, what does it do? Sometimes it isn't there at all, sometimes there is only the initial letter of the category's name after the pipe symbol (like [[Category:Genre|F]]). I know and understand what you do with those pipe symbols in ordinary links - but in those [[Category:Genre|...]]-ones? Can somebody explain? Or is my question unclear? (Sorry - different native tongue...)--Speckmade 22:07, 30 January 2007 (EST)

The text after the pipe (|) in a category is the sort key. This is what the MediaWiki software uses to sort the category. The reason it is there is so that the genre is listed under the letter that the genre start with instead of listing every genre under 'G'.
- teknomunk (talk,E) 22:15, 30 January 2007 (EST)
In principle, the sort key isn't necessary. But as you can imagine, in this case all pages would be sorted under the G (Genre/Rock, Genre/Pop, ...) while we actually want to sort them under the respective genres (rock under R, pop under P, etc).
Anyway, I also removed the helpme-tag; if anything is unclear or you have another question just put it up again.
Have fun editing! --Mischko Talkicon EsperanzaIcon 16:54, 1 February 2007 (EST)
Yess! I see now! Thanx guys and gals! :-)) --Speckmade 20:30, 15 February 2007 (EST)

Different releases with the same name, by the same artist (and released in the same year)

I got the case where one artist released two different albums with the same name in the same year. Now how can I name them to have two distinguished pages for them? Anyone got an idea?

Oh, and there is another one like that: He released two songs of the same title - should I add a ugly number to the name or something?

Should I maybe get both on the same page and redirect from the other title? - but it's (on) a different release!

(Btw: It's the Herbert Grönemeyer album Luxus (1991) and the song Chaos, Marie and Luxus I'm talking about.)

Looking at that page, we're talking about english vs. non-english versions of the same song, correct? If so, the english versions can be marked as "Chaos (English)" from the album "Luxus (English) (1991)." (Since these are technically different recordings with different lyrics, then they can have their own distinct page. It might be nice to have each link to the other with a notation above the lyrics, though.) I suppose you could, if you wanted, have the Luxus (1991) link list both versions of the album and link to the various versions of the song from there. Hope this helps. --Kiefer 23:35, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
Yes, it is somehow "english vs. non-english versions" - but they are on different releases and they aren't just simple translations. That makes the situation unclear to me... --Speckmade 00:54, 31 March 2007 (EDT)
Well, seems to be the best solution - think I'll go for it like this.--Speckmade 18:25, 10 May 2007 (EDT)


I saw your note on Air:Les_Professionnels (I don't know how many notes you left) and instrumental pages are created using the {{instrumental}} template. I fixed that page so that you can see how it should be. --Kiefer 23:35, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, thanks!
But - to satisfy my curiosity - can you tell me why those quasi-empty pages are usefull? --Speckmade 23:42, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
Ah, and we also put <lyric> tags here? --Speckmade 23:45, 30 March 2007 (EDT)


What changes were you trying to make to this page? I had to revert because the gremlins are still in effect and weird stuff was showing up. --Kiefer 14:05, 12 April 2007 (EDT)

Mostly cosmetics.
What's wrong? Should I try again? --Speckmade 14:26, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
I don't know why a couple of the Help pages sometimes save badly. For me, it seemed that cut-and-paste jobs would cause an error. I'm not sure what you were doing, but if you backtrack through the history of that page, you can see what happened. Unexplained gremlins.... --Kiefer 15:31, 12 April 2007 (EDT)


Are you interested in being an administrator? Let me know. :)
-Sean Colombo 18:04, 5 May 2007 (EDT)

Let me think about it for a moment...--Speckmade 20:30, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
Well, it won't hurt nobody, it would make some things easier, I could help the project better in some ways - why not?
But - I'm not always there... My style of working goes in waves and there are times when I'm out of reach and when it's unclear when I'll show up again. As long as that is okay (dunno why it shouldn't, but...)
So: Yes, interested.--Speckmade 20:01, 24 May 2007 (EDT)


Are you still around? I'm trying to edit hip hop genres and noticed this post. I could use your thoughts on this. team atalkctrb 04:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

(Around from time to time...)
What kind thoughts do you want that I didn't already tell there?--Speckmade 01:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, we just instituted the change you mentioned. I haven't dealt with genres much since then, unfortunately. Good to know you are still around sometimes. team atalkctrb 07:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


because the spelling is close enough, a redirect is prefered over a delete. Happy editing ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 04:27, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Why? we could have it the correct way!--Speckmade 04:28, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
You know: I just want to have it deleted to move the thing there!--Speckmade 04:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
It's always better to redirect a page with a slightly wrong title, because a deleted page might just get created again (and again and again).
...doesn't fit to what I intended to do.

If you want to move page A over an already existing page B, you can copy'n'paste the content of A in B and redirect A to B. -- 6x9 (Talk) 20:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure - that's possible but really not a clean solution.--Speckmade 11:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, the "clean" solution can only be done by those with admin capabilities. What page are you trying to move and to where?    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   19:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I know that. That's why I put a deletion request on the page to be overwritten. But I just found it removed the other moment - and had a lengthy (well, maybe not really...) discussion on why, how, what, ...
Well, it's done now - the dirty way... :-) Never mind. Maybe next time the other way...--Speckmade 03:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Seems like you removed the fLetter from a dozen Peter Tosh songs… see Category:Songs Needing Footer Attention. Probably by accident, but just in case it wasn't: there's currently no way to reliably detect correct fLetters for all songs, so the parameters will have to stay. — 6×9 (Talk) 14:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Really? (- We shouldn't need those stupid parameters - software should take care of such things, I think...)
Thought these parameters are gone for good - but now when look again I can't see why I got this impression - probably because it moved from footer to header in some template...--Speckmade 15:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
With this extension many parameters could be detected automatically from the pagename. Unfortunately it has some performance issues which might be used for DoS attacks, so Sean is waiting until they are resolved. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah - okay, promising...--Speckmade 16:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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