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Ignor-the-ant

aka Igor

  • I live in Berlin
  • I was born on July 15
  • I am m

Songs that need your attention

  1. 140 Por Hora
  2. Balanço Do Vapor
  3. Bela Menina
  4. Forró De Magnata
  5. Galera Do Forró
  6. Kojak Do Pirulito
  7. Remelexo
  8. Saudade
  9. Senti Saudade
  10. Tá No Ponto
  11. Vou Pro Bacurau
  12. Ói A Cera, Sanfoneiro
  13. Deixe Entrar Um Pouco D'Água No Quintal
  14. Dune Buggy
  15. Virgínia
  • --ES (talk) 22:49, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

Need help editing?

[1]? and similar albums that need your attention. --ES (talk) 00:47, September 13, 2016 (UTC)

Edit on Márcia (PT) artist page

Hi Ignor.

I didn't quite understand your edit, since I added the song abiding the documentation regarding "other songs" (Other Songs).
Cheers, Securita (talk) 11:05, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Redundant release

Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil:Barra 69 - Caetano E Gil Ao Vivo Na Bahia (1972) contains nothing but duplicates of songs by either artist...--ES (talk) 20:42, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

What about these songs Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil:Madalena, Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil:Cinema Olympia? --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 20:49, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
@ES:
  • what about Kingnee - Musicbrainz 3rd album by Caetano & Gil?
  • and what about our current policy - doesn't it still state that:
    • a separate artist pages should be created for long-term collabs with multiple releases?
    • songs by Caetano & Gil are not just a duplicates of songs by either collab member and thus should own their separate pages (as songs, performed by different artists)?
--Senvaikis (talk) 22:14, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
@Senv: I must say that it was me who asked for to delete the "Caetano Veloso & Gilberto Gil" page, because in my opinion they are mostly solo singers, but from time to time they make albums (and concert tours) together. So I think it is O.K. to put these albums in both artist pages. As one can see by the dates of release, there are long pauses between their collabs.
But I didn't want the deletion of that album. --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 22:37, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
I don't speak about my or your wishes. I speak about the site policy we should follow (or change, if not follow). --Senvaikis (talk) 05:39, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
@Senv: I can't actually find the documentation that you refer to. Once I see it..... As for the album you linked at mb, it doesn't exist here. --ES (talk) 06:11, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
@ES: If you like stepping on the same old rake (action-first, discussion-last) - it's up to you. Do that without me this time (at least not now, sorry). --Senvaikis (talk) 08:05, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
No Link to our current policy? --ES (talk) 08:19, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
p.s. Surely this is a talk page for all to read, not a personal discussion over policy, which rightly belongs on AdminPortal, or even to start a change on current policy. So let's see what the doc says on where there is a rake, and what is a rake :-) --ES (talk) 08:22, November 25, 2016 (UTC)
And in case it is not clear from Ignor's comment, even if what you say is policy, obviously there exists different interpretations of what it may mean. --ES (talk) 08:24, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Redundant Releases, take II

If I mistakenly delete a release that is NOT redundant, then the bot will insert the orphan song on the artist page within 24 hours, and then I will restore the album. cheers --ES (talk) 09:33, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Harassment by EchoSierra

Once again ES has over-reacted and applied a 3 day ban on Ignor-the-ant under the generic heading of ‘”Harassment’”. No Prior warning, discussion and no decent explanation. All this whilst hiding evidence [2] of her behaving in a way that certainly does not behove an admin. She did the same to me before banning me for a day in April by removing my response to her accusations [3], presumably to make herself coming out looking better. I have tried to point her to the Wikia documentation on what is expected of an admin User_talk:EchoSierra#Reaching_Out but this has seemingly fallen on deaf ears. I realise that the site is running short of admins and can ill afford to lose one as prolific as @ES but there must surely be some measure of sensibility and accountability when one is an admin ? DesPhagues (talk) 12:09, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

And let me quote your won words, from a prior hasty sub par intervention:

Quote by DesPhagues: "I shall leave it up to the gentlemen in question as to whether or not I have grasped the bigger picture."

centim... --ES (talk) 12:27, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Who is Related, and why?

Please See Edit Comment, If I have failed to point this matter out in the past, here is the reminder. Your massive Related artist lists in {{ArtistInfo}} of many many artist pages need a serious pruning... tia

  • Explanation: By your logic, 1000's of artists would be related to Bob Dylan, because they sang his songs. Such relationship is indicated via {{Cover}} & {{Covered}} & in {{CreditBox}}.
  • It is a very good idea to indicate in AI, HOW you reached the conclusion that RA artist was inserted there by a short explanatory note. Just because two artists appear in a paragraph on a webpage, (Specially at Wikipedia), does not qualify them as RA. They may have been visting the same barber shop Wink --ES (talk) 06:25, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

Pre-War Edits

Guten taag Herr Ignore-gut-edïts! (that is de:gut, not en:gut, btw)

  • Do you have any idea how many of the page you created (right up to spring of 2017) have this signature UN-ignorable-ditty in them?
==[[ARTIST:ALBUM TITLE (YEAR)|ALBUM TITLE (YEAR)]]==
{{Album Art||ALBUM TITLE}}
# '''[[ARTSIT:SONG TITLE|SONG TITLE]]'''
# '''[[ARTSIT:SONG TITLE|SONG TITLE]]'''
{{clear}} 

Do you think that is a typo? RSVP --ES (talk) 01:40, October 10, 2017 (UTC)

imdb vs. lw (Spurious RA/Collab redux)

Hi again
Have you ever been to imdb (internet movie database)?
Well this is lw, not imdb. I finally caught on to the root of your RA artist inclusions....

  • {{ArtistInfo}} has optional sections for including related artists and collaborations for...

Musical artists and Bands
but, not for:
Screen artists, directors, composers, lyricists, etc..

  • From the point of view of imdb (and wikipedia), the relationships you indicate on artist pages are valid, but not @lw.
  • So when getting the urge to pad ai with names, keep the above in mind. And from the documentation:

Related Artists: Musical groups and solo artists will often have a close connection with other musical groups and solo artists...
tia. --ES (talk) 03:57, October 10, 2017 (UTC)

Vera Johnson

Zu meiner Schande (?) habe ich noch nie von ihr gehört. Aber ich habe hier ein paar Freunde, die besser in der kanadischen Folk-Szene bewandert sind. Inzwischen habe ich ein ppar von ihren Texten auf https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=138725 gefunden. Stay tuned ...--Vssm2004 (talk) 01:03, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Bin eigentlich nur mal auf sie gestoßen, weil John Pearse einen ihrer songs gecoverd hat. --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 01:39, November 4, 2017 (UTC)
Ich habe da die "British Columbia Folklore Society" gefunden, die die beiden LPs (auf CDs natürlich) zusammen mit einem Buch über Vera und allen ihren Liedern (Tabulatur und Texte) verkauft. Habe ich gleich geordert und es soll Ende der Woche hier eintreffen. Wie gesagt: etwas Geduld!--Vssm2004 (talk) 02:15, November 6, 2017 (UTC)
Klasse! --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 10:18, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Pages for non lw artists

  • Though many lyric sites report songs were performed by composers and lyricists (per page name of bot imported songs), we can't take that at face value, they have to be verified. I hope you know how to verify that such page names are valid, or need to be moved or redirected to actual performers.
  • At spotify many songs have the composer linked as one of the artists, but the lw accepted artist is the one that sings...
  • Any such artist pages you created will be deleted when I come across them. Linking such artists in song/album credit box (as local link) creates a huge amount of work when such pages are deleted. Just wanted to let you know.
  • A better way of linking such composer/lyricists is a dg link to the page that indicates them as the creators of the song (like a single or album page link displaying that info) , and that is preferable to a wp link of the individuals.
  • You do recall another case of this matter that I brought to your attention on my talk page, if you don't, >> my talk page archives. --ES (talk) 12:42, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
Was it me, who createt the Kurt Weill page? --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 14:06, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
You linked it to all the other pages, did you check its validity before such massive linking?, and inserted it into many many artist page ai boxes.Composers and lyricists are not valid in ai boxes, Have you grasped that yet, per chance? --ES (talk) 14:29, February 22, 2018 (UTC)

Antology

Mis-creation of Capinam:Ponteio (may not attribute song to lyricist)
to mis-create Capinam (may not create artist page for lyricist)
then you linked that page on:

  1. Sérgio Mendes:Viramundo
  2. Lani Hall:Corrida De Jangada
  3. Edu Lobo:Corrida De Jangada
  4. Edu Lobo & Marília Medalha:Ponteio
  5. Gracinha Leporace:Rancho De Ano Novo
  6. Edu Lobo:O Tempo E O Rio
  7. Jards Macalé:Movimento Dos Barcos
  8. Elis Regina:Corrida De Jangada
  9. Clara Nunes
  10. Paulinho Da Viola:O Acaso Não Tem Pressa
  11. Maria Bethânia:Viramundo
  12. Nara Leão:Corrida De Jangada
  13. Maria Bethânia:Yáyá Massemba
  14. Category:Songs by Capinam (transclusion)
  15. José Carlos Capinam (redirect page)
  16. Capinan (redirect page)
  17. Astrud Gilberto:Ponteio
  18. Gilberto Gil:Miserere Nóbis
  19. Maria Bethânia:Beira-Mar
  1. Bryan Ferry:Falling In Love Again
  2. Marlene Dietrich
  3. Marianne Faithfull:Want To Buy Some Illusions
  4. Billie Holiday:Falling In Love Again
  5. Kevin Ayers:Falling In Love Again
  6. Marlene Dietrich:Peter
  7. Marlene Dietrich:Kinder, Heut' Abend, Da Such' Ich Mir Was Aus
  8. Marlene Dietrich:Nimm Dich In Acht Vor Blonden Frauen
  9. Marlene Dietrich:Wenn Ich Mir Was Wünschen Dürfte
  10. Marlene Dietrich:Ich Bin Die Fesche Lola
  11. Billie Holiday:Hello, My Darling
  12. Klaus Nomi:Falling In Love Again
  13. Rainald Grebe:Die 90er
  14. Marlene Dietrich:Ich Bin Von Kopf Bis Fuß Auf Liebe Eingestellt
  15. Udo Lindenberg:Ich Bin Von Kopf Bis Fuß Auf Liebe Eingestellt
  16. Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft:Die Fesche Lola
  17. Hildegard Knef:Ich Bin Von Kopf Bis Fuß Auf Liebe Eingestellt
  18. Ute Lemper
  19. Carice Van Houten:Ich Bin Die Fesche Lola
  20. Tim Fischer
  21. Udo Lindenberg:In Den Ruinen Von Berlin
  22. Udo Lindenberg:Ich Weiß Nicht, Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  23. Udo Lindenberg:Ich Mache Alles Mit Den Beinen
  24. Udo Lindenberg:Wenn Ich Mir Was Wünschen Dürfte
  25. Udo Lindenberg:Illusions
  26. Udo Lindenberg:Ich Weiß Nicht Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  27. Marlene Dietrich:You've Got That Look
  28. Marlene Dietrich:Jonny
  29. Marlene Dietrich:The Boys In The Backroom
  30. Marlene Dietrich:Falling In Love Again
  31. Marlene Dietrich:I've Been In Love Before
  32. Tim Fischer:Na So Was (1994)
  33. Leo Monosson
  34. Marlene Dietrich:Ruins Of Berlin
  35. Comedian Harmonists:Baby
  36. Hildegard Knef:Ich Weiß Nicht, Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  37. Marlene Dietrich:Ich Weiß Nicht, Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  38. Meret Becker:Ich Weiß Nicht, Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  39. Bing Crosby:My Heart And I
  40. The Platters:Moonlight And Shadows
  41. Bob Crosby:Whispers In The Dark
  42. Louis Armstrong:True Confession
  43. André Heller:Ich Weiß Nicht, Zu Wem Ich Gehöre
  44. Doris Day:Falling In Love Again
  45. Tim Fischer:Das Jroschenlied
  46. Blandine Ebinger:Das Jroschenlied
  47. Blandine Ebinger
  48. Helen Vita
  49. Dorothy Lamour:Strange Enchantment
  50. Dorothy Lamour

--ES (talk) 09:34, February 25, 2018 (UTC)

--ES (talk) 07:32, February 27, 2018 (UTC)

Dupe links on song pages

Since {{Cover}}'s artist already links the artist, same artist in {{CreditBox}} is a dupe, isn't it? --ES (talk) 17:12, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

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