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Moving GUMI to グミ (Gumi)

I noticed that you (or a bot? under your username?) moved all pagges under GUMI to グミ. There might be a problem, though. As far as I can tell, no one really uses グミ, instead typically using GUMI, or メグッポイド (Megpoid) on NicoNico Douga (where most original songs with VOCALOIDS are in Japan), unless in ordering with other VOCALOIDS with a two-kana given name, such as 【ミク・グミ・ルカ】"Miku&GUMI&Luka for example... --[u126]

(Sorry for late reply) I mostly went by LW:PN, plus MusicBrainz and Amazon list (her? him? it? this is confusing!) as "グミ".
I hadn't noticed the vocaloid category at the time, though, or I would have held off moving the pages until we at least have some sort of result from the discussion on the community portal. — 6×9 (Talk) 07:01, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
Yeap, it's pretty complicated... And it's her. ;)
Videos tagged with Megpoid: http://nicosound.anyap.info/tag/10h7q (Mostly GUMI in the title, with Megpoid too)
Videos tagged with Gumi: http://nicosound.anyap.info/tag/5y5b (All GUMI)
Videos tagged with グミ: http://nicosound.anyap.info/tag/2gq2 (only one features GUMI)
EDIT: (On the first page, at least)
--[u126] 05:38, April 9, 2013 (UTC)

Rick Roll

hi, 6

just wanted to delete this page, but after watching its history decided better to ask you - maybe this transclusion have some (unknown for me) reason to be left untouched? :) --Senvaikis (talk) 16:07, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
See my reason for restoring after the last time you deleted it :-) The joke's gone a "bit" stale by now, and the original htmlet stopped working long ago (hence transclusion as a poor substitute), so I guess we can do away with it now. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:36, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
Understanding rickrolling did't (and still doesn't) help me to understand how may such page conform LW song page naming and formatting policy requirements. It still seems to me either "mistitled song" or "bad form" of artist page. Seems I'm getting too old... --Senvaikis (talk) 18:46, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Dodgy Songs, Cover Too!

Zix, take a look at Chantal Kreviazuk:Imagine, supposedly she performed it somewhere, her OS contains songs that are covers but no recording exist. I just redirected a few like Danny Boy to another artist that did record it. and this one Chantal Kreviazuk:Love's Recovery. If I can't find a redir target i send them to Unknown Artist. Aye or nay? --ES (talk) 12:23, April 13, 2013 (UTC)

Nice of you to ask… after the fact ;-) At least one (the one you moved to UA) exists on YT, might be a good idea to check the others. "Recorded" and "officially released" are different things. — 6×9 (Talk) 14:57, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
Nice of you to clean up my mess every other day ;-) --ES (talk) 23:58, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
Just an example of the whole issue: Wild Horse was neither recorded, nor officially released, but it was performed, and recorded by a fan at a concert yt, do we keep those?
see: CK:NAT Wikipedia16; most of the tracks listed there are bona fide recordings from soundtracks/compilations/Japanese release/CBC radio or TV, all of which are fit to remain on the artist page at lw. The page above describes Wild Horses: "Wild Horses" (acoustic piano "Rolling Stones" cover) (sure that helps! At best that is a bootleeg recording), and probably the same is true of Lennnon's Imagine and many other covers she may have done at concerts which will pop up out of fan's vidcams in the days to come... Do we keep songs that may have been performed but neither released nor recorded? Here is the list of her OS that I dumped, sans the one you caught:
  1. Chantal Kreviazuk:Ken's Song -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  2. Chantal Kreviazuk:Stewart's Coat -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  3. Chantal Kreviazuk:San Diego Serenade -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  4. Chantal Kreviazuk:Old Man -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  5. Chantal Kreviazuk:Love's Recovery -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  6. Chantal Kreviazuk:Blow Up The Outside World -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  7. Chantal Kreviazuk:I Can't Make You Love Me-redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  8. Chantal Kreviazuk:Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas-redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  9. Chantal Kreviazuk:Danny Boy-redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  10. Chantal Kreviazuk:O Canada -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
  11. Chantal Kreviazuk:Imagine -redirect-> only listed on lyric sites
same goes with Artists that are only mentioned at lyric sites that I ranked them Violet...--ES (talk) 07:13, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
Ok now see this: Steve Winwood:Long! Slapping Reality Check on it won't help, he won't come tell us if it's real. Moving to UA is pointless, deletion is not allowed. So I say we create a song Dëäd Ënd:Dëäd Ënd, and redirect dead end songs athat way, kinda like the very end of lw, the sump :) --ES (talk) 12:05, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

LW:PN, Xtreme case

With the goal of getting rid of Feat. please try merging Elton John:Your Song & Elton John:Your Song (Feat. Ronan Keating)! tia --ES (talk) 02:20, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

as usal EJ is just an example, take a lookie here too [1] tia. --ES (talk) 06:10, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Zix, this is turning out to be an eveeening out of a Hitchcock movie...:)) see Katy Perry:E.T. & Katy Perry:E.T. (ft. Kanye West) (both Gold). --ES (talk) 06:20, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
EJ: Any lyrical differences were homeopathic at best, so a redirect was in order. The E.T.s are different enough to get separate pages, but "ft." was hardly compliant with fl-caps rule. — 6×9 (Talk) 12:41, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
Problem: fl-caps rule was made for API requests like SOAP, SOAP "normalizes" the requests, but it only ucases the first char after a blank. So "I and you" is made to "I And You", but "I (and you)" becomes "I (and You)" AFAIK. - Chris 16:44, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
That's not the only inconsistency between LWPN and API; the latter also expects non-fl in lowercase (though only in song title part of PN, not artist name), like "I and YOU" → "I And You". — 6×9 (Talk) 16:57, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Missing Orphans still?

Joe Rilla:Der Osten Rollt last edit 2009. Joe Rilla last edit 2012. Today janitor fetched the song and attached it to the artist page. Are there more? --ES (talk) 11:21, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately WLH doesn't have a history, so it's impossible to tell which page used to link to the rolling East and why it stopped doing so. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:51, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Who? Where?

Jed Lat. --ES (talk) 19:25, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

No idea. There's a fb page with nothing but a photo, created 2 years later. Nothing on yt. Of course, by now it's all over every single lyrics site. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:40, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
LOL well I wasn't hopeing that you met him on the (virtual) street :) What do we do with this kind of contributions? That album cover is no album cover either. And worse, it's not even a bot import. Violet artists is over 90% this sort of spoofs, with a few that are actually VA albums. --> Unknown Artist or some sort of a star?? --ES (talk) 19:49, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
UA is even worse, because clogging up that list even more with faux songs will discourage anyone from even looking at it. How about some flagging template, with timestamp and a nice red notice asking for verification? Then once every couple of weeks someone can go through the category and delete everything that's been flagged that way for over a year. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:55, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
Template?! däs 6 abteilung! Sounds good to me, though I don't want to distract you from the CollabAlb template that we desperately need for real artists ;) If you can make the template with a param for (Artist/Album/Song) would be sweet, makes it short without a lot of boilerplate text, for all types of pages. We just had a bogus Lana Del Ray album issue... tia. --ES (talk) 20:11, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

You must have missed the bit about doing some research first ;-) — 6×9 (Talk) 09:56, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

First, Thanks!
Second, No I didn't miss the research part, All those violet ones were researched already, I just slapped the template in the wrong page. Wah! --ES (talk) 10:06, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Then there are artists like LAX: the artist name is valid, but none of the songs listed within are theirs (by any ref), so I suppose the template belongs in the song pages, but what do we do with the artist page? --ES (talk) 10:13, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Normally: templates on song pages, none on artist page, but short info above song list.
In this case: decide whether it should be L.A.X Gurlz or LAX Gurlz (both spellings on ms) or Kali Girls (apparently earlier name) and move song pages there. — 6×9 (Talk) 11:35, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, and pester Google for an advanced filter that leaves out all known lyric sites from search results. — 6×9 (Talk) 11:37, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
"RealityCheck"? Sounds like a German-English word for "check whether this is real". Maybe rename into "Verification" Wink? - Chris 13:20, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
The past admins have made such glorious errors that 6 will never be able to hold a candle up to, I'll let this one pass Wink one would be dumping admin work on editors --ES (talk) 13:32, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Was going to use "CitationNeeded" first, but thought that might conjure up too many bad associations for wikipedia users… — 6×9 (Talk) 14:17, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
"Citation needed" is indeed one of the most awful phrases Wikipedia has brought to us. - Chris 23:09, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Mis speeled

How did you fin that? is there a proximity search or do you speak italian? ;) --ES (talk) 10:21, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Neither – after "Chain E Seu Conjunto" "Piove" got no meaningful results I tried "Seu Conjunto" "Piove" & ignored Waldo. — 6×9 (Talk) 10:24, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
My exact search only led to right here, and to me any song or artist that only exists on lw must be a spoof. Thanks --ES (talk) 10:31, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Problem with discogs on album page footer

I am editing an album page right now, and I ran into a problem when I tried checking to make sure that the discogs link worked. Matt Redman:Facedown (2004)

I put had this for discogs. When I preview my edit, it looks fine. Then when I go to click on the link, it tells me that the page can't be found. I don't know if this is an issue with my computer, or if it is a problem with the discogs parameter. I got the release/4059661 part from visiting the discogs website and copying and pasting what was there into the album footer. discogs = release/4059661

This is the actual link on discogs: http://www.discogs.com/Matt-Redman-Facedown/release/4059661

I'm going to go ahead and edit the page so that you can see what happens when I have that information in the parameter.

Is there any way to figure out what the problem might be? Thank you.--Arwen4CJ (talk) 00:48, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Never mind -- it works now. Maybe it was only a problem when I viewed it in preview mode. --Arwen4CJ (talk) 00:54, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

That's odd… discogs link are identical in preview mode and saved page. Maybe a temporary problem with their servers. — 6×9 (Talk) 07:35, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Oblivion

Thanks for the BIG help with Lil Wayne's BIG OS! :(. How did you find them Oblivinoized pages? Wah! --ES (talk) 08:19, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Using this script by Hfs. Basically it's "Artist:" prefix minus blue links on artist page, so it also lists albums, translations, and songs already listed on some album page. I'm no ophiologist or I'd tweak it to filter out the first two. — 6×9 (Talk) 08:26, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
So you are running that code within the bot framework? Lwt Has a similar function.--ES (talk) 08:36, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
Uuh, Python, very nice. Used to learn that once, too. You could try to filter them out via regexp. - Chris 21:38, April 27, 2013 (UTC)
Except some songs might also have " (####)" or "/something" in pagename. Anyway, usually the list is short enough to filter them out manually. — 6×9 (Talk) 09:56, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Chris are you hinting at the possibility of upgrading janitor with your old knowledge? would be nice if jan could find the right pages so 6 would have more time cooking up templates ;) --ES (talk) 12:57, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Xmas comes early

Thanks! --ES (talk) 07:38, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

{{albumcover}} needs an ugly workaround to avoid red links though: see here. — 6×9 (Talk) 07:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Let's call that an Easter Egg! :) What befüddles me is that Cale & Riley's album no appear in the cat, while the album displays the correct cat tail... --ES (talk) 09:32, April 28, 2013 (UTC) Now I can go kill redirect oodles of ArtistCollabs!
That's because I added the cat after I edited C&R. After touching it's there. — 6×9 (Talk) 09:55, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


May

Same song two lyrics

Fleetwood Mac released an old song with new lyrics. What's the procedure? --ES (talk) 18:00, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Usually, adding (Album Title) for disambig to the newer version. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:22, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
Being persnickety with LW:PN, any chance the two lyrics can be put side by side on same page with "==" headers indicating which album they came from? --ES (talk) 20:22, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
"Being persnickety with LW:PN", songs with different lyrics must be published on separate pages :) --Senvaikis (talk) 21:58, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Redirections

Hi 6 times 9, I noticed that u frequently tidy up behind me when I leave the full content of a page after redirecting it. I do that so an admin can check before definetely deleting the redirected content. Now, is that ok with you?  · Lichtweber talk service  15:12, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

A proper redirect only has one line with the redirect statement. Nothing gets deleted, if it becomes necessary the redirect can be undone or reverted. Stating the result of 6 times 9 however, brings bad luck! --ES (talk) 15:22, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
SO sorry. I'll keep that in mind, ES :)  · Lichtweber talk service  16:43, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

Page Moving

Can you move this page and this page to this page? I smell like teen spirit▓ 14:17, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

in such cases there is no need to move, and you can do it yourself, replace the entire contents of the source page with #redirect[[Target page]]. done. cheers --ES (talk) 14:26, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

More Loopiness

Run-D.M.C. Vs. Jason Nevins:It's Like That, goes into a loop, tried accessing it's history directly, no luck. gimme a clue how to solve it please! tia --ES (talk) 08:24, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Crazy. It's editable via API, but touching didn't help. Deleting and restoring all revisions didn't help. Deleting and pasting old content into new page didn't help. Wait a week and then contact Wikia staff? — 6×9 (Talk) 17:35, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Now same issue with Songs: Ohia :( --ES (talk) 12:00, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
That's really odd… their album pages load normally, but all song pages that I checked time out. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:44, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
I was editing the artist page, adding albums and reducing OS, without the usual dump. Then artist page failed to load and my last edit was saving with reduced OS. Didn't think of checking album or song pages. So wait another week and call Wikia? --ES (talk) 20:38, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
Paul Gordon:Jane Eyre (Original Broadway Cast) (2000), songs too. --ES (talk) 04:19, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Deletion

The Madonna Page got many duplicates, remix versions and some false titles in the other songs section. how to delete? Weblurch (talk) 12:10, May, 11, 2013 (MEZ)

Preferably not at all, but redirect to the proper page instead. I'd wager most of them were created by ÜberBot, so deleting would just mean it would create them all over again on its next run. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:46, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Unlinking Artists in Credits

Zix, can you explain the logic behind that? --ES (talk) 07:41, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Why would we want red links for artists that aren't likely to ever get a page, having no releases on their own? — 6×9 (Talk) 07:42, May 12, 2013 (UTC)
düh! I didn't check them colors! --ES (talk) 07:45, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Little Talks

You're listening to the old pre-album version of Little Talks; they sing "Don't listen to a word I say.", not "Don't listen to a word that I say."

The Hey!'s are very redundant and shouldn't be included in the lyrics. It's so unprofessional...

Also, writing the chorus over and over again is extremely redundant. Some songs will have the chorus repeat, maybe, ten times at the end of a song till the song fades out. I can understand re-printing the chorus each time it's brought up again, but not if they're just repeating it again and again. Looks unprofessional.

I see I missed some commas, but those are an easy fix, and I can do that if you'll let me undo your edit without us getting into a revert war.Moritasan2040 (talk) 16:21, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

See Help:Contents/Editing/Formatting/Songs#Lyrics. Sung choruses should not be replaced with "[chorus]", for the sake of those who follow the lyrics while listening to the song. Only in extreme cases like multiple repetitions during fade-out may something like "(repeat)" or "(repeat to fade)" be used.
Including exclamations like "Hey!" is a matter of taste; I could do without, but most users seem to prefer them (some even painstakingly transcribe things like "la la la" or "ah"s and "ooh"s), so for the sake of peace I tend to leave them in (though an ellipsis is preferable to multiple lines of "Hey"s). — 6×9 (Talk) 17:26, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll go through each song and make them all the same style then. But I REALLY don't think we should include all the hey's, lalala's, and various other sounds they make in their songs. It might be easy to include in Little Talks, but some of their other songs would get very complicated...Moritasan2040 (talk) 02:52, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Agree with you 100%, but many other users would like these things included. We actually had a discussion about this a while ago, and the result was this additional text on the help page:
  • Scat singing, vocalizing and other vocal noises that aren't actual meaningful words -- "la la la", "doo doo", "aah aah" etc. -- should not be transcribed, unless they are integral to the song (e.g. if they form part or all of the chorus, or make a song famous/notorious). They may be hinted at by a short excerpt followed by an ellipsis: "Da da da ..."
6×9 (Talk) 19:41, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Sanity vs. Policy

Six, plz see [2]. So how is it that the sledgehammer called {{OL}} made it into the documentation, but <br> didn't?

Note that most of our editors have problems creating normal tracklists to begin with! I hope this cure worse than the disease can be fixed without me dragging my personal problems thru the AP Wink --ES (talk) 13:47, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

How do you propose we do something like this without tl:OL? br doesn't work because (1) the second header is indented and (2) vertical distance is smaller than for the first header, both of which give me the semantic willies. Not to mention different reissues with different bonus tracks, where you need more than one listing starting at a certain number != 1.
Editors who can copy & paste and who can count shouldn't have trouble adding additional lines, even if they don't understand the syntax. Editors who can't even create normal tracklists won't benefit from banishing tl:OL by definition. — 6×9 (Talk) 14:55, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
And how often do we have such extreme cases as you offered? In my example, which I think is a good representation of majority of cases, neither the semantic willies applies, nor the vertical distance issue. Why not include the <br> in the docs as a simple alternative? --ES (talk) 15:33, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
Documenting it as an alternative is fine. Mass-replacing existing OLs is not. — 6×9 (Talk) 06:31, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Great, alternative is perfect, because I have seen and ignored enough dangling braces and loose pipes (in browse mode) with OLs. Finding pages whose track lines do not start with # should be doable. What about tracklines starting with *, does the api ignore that too? --ES (talk) 20:47, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
Not sure, and caching makes it hard to check. To be on the safe side it's probably best for all tracklines to start with #. — 6×9 (Talk) 15:23, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

How to Handle Pages Like This One?

Google search shows identical entries on many lyric sites. Note that even the misspellings are identical on all pages! (I turn to you cuz you are a native speaker).

  • none of the references on the artist page fit
  • no other information about this "song" can be found on the net
  • no other information about the "artist" can be found on the net
  • one lyric page even lists the lyrics under CCR!

According to the LW deletion policy this page is not subject to deletion. But to me it is obvious that these are no lyrics from a real band or singer. So what would be the right thing to do here?  · Lichtweber talk service  23:02, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

I've moved it to Unknown Artist. Some search results had "C. XTATIC" (yes, in all-caps) as artist, but I couldn't verify it. — 6×9 (Talk) 06:30, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

AlbumCover vs Albumcover

Hi, 6

even if there was some reason for keeping two different templates, named almost identically ({{Albumcover}} & {{AlbumCover}}), I'm not sure the reason was good enough, especially speaking about AlbumCollaborations. Shouldn't then AlbumCover be just redirected to Albumcover?
thx, --Senvaikis (talk) 05:55, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
Agree that 1 is enough… Not sure why Chris created the other one; maybe because he prefers CamelCase? (He could have just moved it then, though.) — 6×9 (Talk) 15:18, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Homeless Songpage Category

Hi six, I just managed to assign some pages from the Unknown Artist list to artists. How can I remove the homeless songpage category from the correct song page after having the pages moved?  · Lichtweber talk service  14:56, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

"Homeless" means the artist page linked in {{Song}} doesn't exist. So… (1) create the artist page, (2) "touch" the song page (i.e. edit & save without changing anything) to update the category. — 6×9 (Talk) 15:29, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
OK, will do. Do I have to delete the links to the old pages from the Unknown Artist list myself or will they be removed automatically?  · Lichtweber talk service  17:14, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
They need to be removed manually, unfortunately. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:26, May 26, 2013 (UTC)


June

Information on Band Page

On the Sleipnir page there is no wikipedia article available in English. So I added some basic information about the band from the German wikipedia article in English by using the info template. I also made an entry about it on the band's talk page. Simliar information was removed from the page by the watcher before. Now he reverted the entry again. I don't want to get into an edit war so: What is the LW policy here?  · Lichtweber talk service  18:43, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Basic information is welcome (it's what the info parameter in {{ArtistInfo}} is for) and should not be removed without a good reason. If he reverts it again, he'll get a warning. Putting the info at the top looked a bit like a warning sticker, though, so I can kinda understand him being unhappy about it… — 6×9 (Talk) 20:25, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
I like the way u solved it :)  · Lichtweber talk service  20:45, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I like to ask you to write a statement to the denunciation of Sleipnir, because it could have effects for other groupsides too, who has indexed albums or says political statements! Thank you very much! Talk:Sleipnir#information about Sleipnir --LYRIC-Schweineschwarte (talk) 20:11, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Oh sorry, I saw to late, what you write here. But Lichtweber says only the half! My reasons, why I don't thinks thats right to write these informations, you can find on the link which I wrote. Thank you! --LYRIC-Schweineschwarte (talk) 20:17, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

What is an artist

6, Is this an artist? --ES (talk) 03:12, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Black Star

Hello, you had set the black star at the talkpage of sleipnir for all songs, but I don't know what does it say? The help say nothing about black stars. Thank you!

--LYRIC-Schweineschwarte (talk) 19:50, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

See here (or here, where it's more clearly explained): Black means unranked, and songs that don't exist (red links) are unranked by definition. — 6×9 (Talk) 20:26, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Gasoline Lollipops

Hello 6X9,

I am not sure if Gasoline Lollipops gave permission for the album to be on Torrents. I am trying to get my hands on the album and when I do I can send nec. info. to verify it. As soon as I have my hands on that info. I'll make it avail. so as to justify the pg. Thanks for your time! -- LegionOfMichael (talk) 01:01, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Gracenote

Hi,

This gracenote version has the title wrong, not sure if this is the right place to report it but the help screens said contact local admins and you are top of the list? Gracenote:Matchbox Twenty:These Hard Time The song name is These Hard Times - also not linked on the editable page to the gracenote version. Thanks. -- Bertcocaine (talk) 09:47, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


July

Klaus Hoffmann: Amsterdam

Hi 6x,

Das Lied Amsterdam hat Hoffmann (unter dem gleichen Titel) später mit einem etwas geänterem Text gesungen. Ich weiß jetzt nicht wie ich die Versionen am besten unterscheiden soll. --Ignor-the-ant (talk) 01:37, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hi,
sorry fürs Warten, war letzte Woche in Urlaub.
Wenn die Änderungen eher gering sind (1-2 Zeilen), kannst Du das auf der gleichen Seite vermerken; ansonsten bietet sich eine neue Seite "Klaus Hoffmann:Amsterdam (Albumtitel)" oder "Klaus Hoffmann:Amsterdam (Jahr)" an. — 6×9 (Talk) 13:56, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
Hoffmann benutzte zuerst die Übertragung eines gewissen Heinz Riedel (Klaus Hoffmann:Amsterdam ), machte dann später eine eigene, die sich doch sehr von der ersten unterscheidet [4]. Leider konnte ich bisher nicht rausfinden ab, wann er die neue Version sang.--Ignor-the-ant (talk) 01:07, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
Notfalls könnte man es "Amsterdam (New Lyrics)" oder einfach "Amsterdam (New)" nennen und ggf. später verschieben… — 6×9 (Talk) 16:41, July 22, 2013 (UTC)


August

Question regarding compilations

Hi 54 :-)

I am wondering if it is a good idea (or not) to add a series of compilation albums. It is the series "De Pre Historie", witch is made up from all sorts of hits dating back to 1950, and goes on to 1999. In total there are some 90 albums... most of the songs on them have their page on lyricwiki... please advise :) --LYRIC-Wyverex

Hi Wyverex,
while we normally try to avoid compilations, various artists comps are a bit of a special case, even if all of the songs are already found on other albums (mainly so someone looking for the lyrics doesn't have to search across two dozen or more artist pages). So, no problem, go ahead if you want to. If you're not sure how to handle a series of compilations, you might want to check out Super Hits Of The '70s for ideas. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:07, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

Formatting National Anthems

Hi 6, you wanna have a look here, please? Thx,  · Lichtweber talk service  09:07, August 11, 2013 (UTC)

"Okay, is not OK"

"no, it's not OK"

OK is an Americanism deriving from "Oll Korrect," a comical spelling of 'All Correct'. Therefore, "OK" is a word. Thanks for nothing. --Heard1 (talk) 22:28, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

That's actually only one of many theories (see here or here). I was wrong inasfar as "okay", "OK" and "O.K." are all acceptable according to modern dictionaries, so in future I'll refrain from changing "OK" to "okay", as I hope you'll refrain from changing it the other way around. — 6×9 (Talk) 18:57, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
‘o.k.’ is an abbreviation, not a word. People make the mistake of pronouncing abbreviations–in either variety, contractions or monograms–as if they were words unto themselves. ‘i.e.’ is often said, “eye-e,” not the correct ‘id est,’ the Latin phrase, in origin, those two letter stand for. And in ‘inc.’ people say it as if it were the word ‘ink,’ when it should be the full word that it stands for: ‘incorporated.’ Therefore, ‘OK’ makes a proper word of (originally) an abbreviation.
English is fun, huh?--Heard1 (talk) 21:20, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

English is (apparently) a dying language (part 2)

"it's just the plain old sun"

So you say. Let me explain something to you: all astrological bodies are proper nouns! That means they must be capitalized! Sun, Moon, stars, etc. If you're going to correct my work, then you need to be 'all correct', don't you? Thanks again. --Heard1 (talk) 22:39, August 14, 2013 (UTC)

Heard1: Please have a look here and here.
He is okay, you are OK: Maybe it is a good idea to ask him why he changed your edits instead of you reverting his over and over. Cheers  · Lichtweber talk service  08:47, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
Not much to add, except: If you do revert an edit, at least put a reason in the summary box. — 6×9 (Talk) 19:00, August 15, 2013 (UTC)
You’re putting practice over propriety. Here’s another example of the same problem: ‘whom’ vs. ‘who’. ‘Whom’ is the objective case (used to refer to the object in a sentence); ‘who’ is the interrogative case: which means it is only to be used in the form of a question. People in all Anglophone countries use ‘who’ in every case. Funny, whenever anyone does seem to adopt any usage of ‘whom’ they seem to only use it in the form of a question–which is completely backwards! People generally just don’t know any better because they never learned it correctly in the first place.--Heard1 (talk) 21:25, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Talk Talk Asides Besides

I made only a few changes on the spot from my e-mail (hardly changed from that Talk Talk fan site), and those were not the final revisions; having found them hand written, I’ll post them now. I had worked meticulously on these for weeks, plus triple-checked them before posting. I hope you read them over carefully and compare them while listening and contact me if you have any questions before making any sudden changes.--Heard1 (talk) 21:23, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Руставели

Hello. Please, delete it. --SkorP24 11:31, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

You mean the old file version? done6×9 (Talk) 18:21, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
@6:Sorry, - edit conflict.
@Skorp24:done Done. Note, that I slightly modified your request and deleted another, uppercased version of the image. Hope you'll understand the reason :)
Cheers, --Senvaikis (talk) 18:26, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
That should teach me to check timestamps & histories first. At least until the next time I forget… — 6×9 (Talk) 20:01, August 27, 2013 (UTC)
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