Capitalisation of words preceded by abbreviated letter in French
Regardless of the current debate about capitalization, I would like to know what is LyricWikia's policy on capitalisation of words following an abbreviated article, especially in French. I also invite the admins to complete the "Page Names" documentation accordingly. Some examples are:
Joseph d'Anvers or Joseph D'Anvers ? (d' stands for de, meaning "of" or "from")
Le Temps De l'Amour or Le Temps De l'Amour ? (l' stands for le, meaning "the")
Album title capitalization
I have noticed that song titles are correctly displayed in various templates as long as they are spelled correctly in the Song Footer template. For example, Christine Minier:Les Mots D'Amour N'Ont Pas De Dimanche is correctly displayed as « Les mots d'amour n'ont pas de dimanche » on the translation page. Is it also possible to make that work for album names? For example, Christine Minier:Les Mots D'Amour N'Ont Pas De Dimanche (1987) should be correctly displayed with lower case characters in the Song template! Capitalization simply looks terrible in many languages other than English. --Kopf101 (talk) 14:23, June 6, 2015 (UTC)
- I guess the answer for now is that technology just isn't there yet. The song page would need to parse the album parameter from the album page for it to work. I guess 6x9 could help you out, maybe you should ask him in case he doesn't see the discussion here. --Fassbrause (talk) 16:03, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes! Actually, I can't wait to see it go live thh, I really welcome that change, especially because it simplifies many things. Unfortunately I have not much experience with Mediawikis and templating to help with those core parts, but if you need help with testing reach out on my talk page. Thank you for the good work so far --Fassbrause (talk) 18:21, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
Pagename vs. Header
This page does not follow our page naming policy. I don't find the mistake in "Lethian Dreams:Across The Bridge Of Infinity... The Essence of Night". The 'Of Night' is capitalized in the header. Don't know why it's displayed as 'of Night'. --Weha (talk) 20:19, May 28, 2016 (UTC)
- It's page naming policy. How it's spelled in the header has nothing to do with it. — 6×9 (Talk) 21:19, May 28, 2016 (UTC)
The article currently contains the following text:
"* ABBA, instead of Abba
- The artist's name in this example is kept all in capitals, because that is the closest to the original's format as per the Swedish and English Wikipedias."
However, the current Swedish Wikipedia article name for the pop group is Abba. This is because of two common rules in Swedish grammar (especially used by newspapers). The first one is to apply Swedish grammar to trademarks, company names and organization names, instead of using any stylized writing authors might use or prefer. For example iPhone becomes Iphone and adidas becomes Adidas. The second rule is that abbreviations that are pronounced like a word (the opposite of pronouncing one letter at a time) should be written with trailing upper-case letter and the rest lower-case. For example The purpose of these rules are to maintain a uniform style, ease reading and to not benefit commercial interests of companies and organizations. This rule I think is part of Swedish language Wikipedia's style guide.
- Okay, sorry. I read the Page Names article a bit hastily. Also it could be written more clearly.
- "All words, regardless of whether the artist capitalize that letter or the language's grammar says it should be lower case, must have their initial letter capitalized."
- Does that apply to just song titles or artist names and albums too? I think that should be clarified in the article.
- However, it is still a false statement about Abba on Wikipedia.
- Also, Swedish and English Wikipedias does not sound right. I suggest "Swedish and English language Wikipedia" or "Swedish and English Wikipedia". TorNyan (talk) 16:11, April 1, 2017 (UTC)
- I've removed the Wikipedia bits entirely; our main reference point is album covers anyway. Thanks for the notice!
- As for "All words…": the sentence doesn't specify "…of the song title", so it's really "all words". Also, it's already mentioned at the very top, next to the walnut. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:00, April 1, 2017 (UTC)
Capitalisation and word separators
The manual doesn't make it very clear (at least to me) so I'll ask: Does the hyphen (-) count as a word separator? Which other characters do count as word separators? For example the following song, which form is correct: MusicDream (talk) 02:40, June 22, 2018 (UTC)or ? I think I know the right version but I'm asking just to make sure, and to suggest the manual to mention this thing. --