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Problem with (invalid) Facebook link

I worked over the whole Stahlmann-Page and found the incorrect entry "Stahlmann" under "facebook" in the {{ArtistHeader}}-Template, which leads to the link [1] which is not correct. So I entered the Value "pages/Stahlmann/138756019513864" which leads to the correct link [2]. But untfortunatley the page is now in the category Invalid_Facebook_Link. What has to be done to get this fixed? --Salandas 23:15, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I didn't knew that the numerical id only works on pages, too. -- Salandas 21:51, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

A few questions/comments

If you can respond to any/all of these questions/comments, that would be helpful.

  1. Is it necessary to know ALL of the lyrics absolutely before a page can be upgraded to gold? For example, I was working on certifying this song, which I typed up myself from the lyrics on the album insert, but after listening to it I noticed that the singer repeats the first couple lines, but the second time the ending is different and he kind of trails off and I don't really know what he said. Can this not be gold until I know? Which will probably never happen? It's the only song that's keeping the album from gold.
  2. I think it would be cool if there were simple forward and backward arrow keys on song pages that led to the next and previous songs on an album. If a song is on more than one album, there could be more than one set of arrow keys. I think this often when I am listening through an album while reading the lyrics, and have to go back to the album page before going to the next song. This would also would be cool for albums that have videos on most of their song pages. Then you can go on kind of a musical journey more easily by just clicking through the album in order.
  3. Is there a set way to enter credits? I saw the credits template on that page but it doesn't seem to be standard...
  4. Is there any page where we can request feedback for the work that we are doing? When I do things on the pages I edit, I feel kind of isolated, and I wonder sometimes if I am making mistakes that I don't know about. Sometimes my work is corrected by someone, which is helpful, but it is usually a bot. Is the extent of feedback? If this is the place to request it, and you have time, the main area I have worked on is Danielson.

Thanks and good night. -- Andersol 09:45, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

I cannot answer to all questions, but the last ones I can say at least a bit:
ad 2. Don't know really, but I think, this might be correct somehow: At the moment it would be nearly impossible to implement such a function. Primarily, no song has any information what it's position on a disc it has, additionally most remix-pages link to the original songs lyrics. Ok, this could be easily added to {{Song}}. But I don't think that there is a efficient way to find the song of the same album which has in its header the same number in-/decreased by 1...
ad 3. An official guideline seems to be only this section: Help:Contents/Editing/Formatting/Songs#Credits. On this Discussion page is also a section where a template has been requested. Because I had the same problem as you I created {{CreditBox}}, but it is no official thing. If you surf around a bit, you will find many types of credits. At the moment only the content is relevant, maybe this will change someday in the future. ;-)
ad 4.: I don't know if there is a place for these requests. But I looked into the page a bit and noticed:
Salandas (Talk) 00:05, January 10, 2012 (UTC)

Album ranking star on artist page

Not sure if this has been discussed already, but wouldn't it be nice to have the album ranking star be displayed on the artist page as well? Maybe above the cover or next to the album title.
This way one could see at once which album pages need work without having to click through all of them? Darknite47 15:55, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Agree that it would be useful, but (unless we implement the transclusion of albums on artist pages) it would need to be synchronised manually (just like the tracklist)... — 6×9 (Talk) 20:42, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

iTunes links for people who don't use iTunes

I was wondering if there's any way for people who don't use iTunes to get the full iTunes links for songs. I've got a couple albums to near-Gold status but I can't or don't know how to do the iTunes field. SHeavy:Synchronized (2002) needs iTunes links for every song but once that's done the album will be Silver, and Dog Fashion Disco:Adultery (2006) needs iTunes for Dog Fashion Disco:The Sacrifice Of Mrs. Rose Covington and Dog Fashion Disco:The Hitchhiker to be Gold. Jeff (talk|stalk) 00:11, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

The easiest way is a tool Apple provides to generate these links: iTunes Link Maker. You simply enter the Artist or album, etc. and the tool lists all possible targets (artists/albums/songs) presenting you the iTunes Link for each of them. You only have to copy them. — Salandas (Talk) 00:26, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

unknown artist in the way

I'm looking to add a page for a band called Index (this guy: ) but this already exists ( with a whole 1 song posted. so, uh, now what?

Do you think the song might be from this band, or is that one from a different band? If it is the same band then you are already where you want, you just have to fill in the other information you like? I've seen a song called "Black Razor" in one of the albums on discogs, so it might be that one, just wrongly titled? Rhonda D'Vine 10:10, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
nope. i'm 98% sure it's from another guy. according to discogs, there are 10 different Index'. so a conflict is rather expected i guess.
A search for the lyrics suggests that the song is by Infant Trauma – an artist that doesn't appear to exist outside of lyric pages… Anyway, it's out of the way now :-)
@Paradive: please sign your posts by adding ~~~~. Thanks! — 6×9 (Talk) 15:30, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
THANKEE! ~~~~ paradive (that all you mean?)
all done. my other question is how do i change the myspace link?

Two questions

First. What's the proper way to handle an album that had slightly different track listings based on region? Monster Magnet's God Says No album had different listings for the US, UK, and Japan, and I'm trying to get that album up to Gold.

Second. What do you do if you've got a song that for whatever reason isn't on any of the sites? Just mark everything as "not applicable"? I got hold of the Japan-only bonus track for God Says No and added the lyrics, but absolutely none of the external sites like Amazon have it. Jeff (talk|stalk) 02:20, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

1) Use the {{OL}} template like you did. I corrected the pipe position though (the API only recognizes lines starting with "#" as a track, therefore it's important that the pipe is behind the previous line, not in front of the current line).
2) You just mark them "not applicable", if that's what they are, yes. - Chris 19:51, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Yt object


Apparently it is impossible to put an <object> element on a page: it just appears as plain text. Anyone knows if there is a reason for that?

I think it would be interesting to be able to use this element, for video embedding. Currently there is the YouTube extension which enables <youtube></youtube> and {{#youtube:}} (and their equivalents for a few other sites), which in turn translate to <object>.

They work but as far as I understand you can't improve on them. For example, I would like to embed Dailymotion videos, or to add a t= (start time) parameter to a YouTube video. Do you know how we could do something like this? --Rinaku 18:07, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Rinaku, yes all HTML tags are treated as plain text except for a few. Those object-tags are produced when the display code is generated, they are translated internally. You'd have to write an extension to add Dailymotion. Most HTML is turned off because enabling it would allow malitious code to be parsed. - Chris 19:24, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
Alright. I've found the code of the extension and I think it would be easy enough to add a website. Do you by chance know what I should do to submit a change to Wikia? And if I could try it on Wikia? (I would be happy not to start by setting up a MediaWiki at home...) --Rinaku
Found answers. I will work on the extension when I have time and try to get the changes integrated into Wikia with the help of User:Sean_Colombo. --Rinaku 21:39, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, but please make sure you don't jeopardize the extension-, site- and database safety. The code behind object tags can be mighty applications that are able to easily exploit security holes. - Chris 21:11, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
The idea is to copy the YouTube part of the extension and to modify it toward this. And maybe to improve the YouTube part too. If you see something dangerous I could trigger while only embedding objects from these trusted sites, please tell. Eventually, you will be able to see the code here. --Rinaku 21:42, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hope you've noticed already a broken look (and functionality) of embedded youtube player in audio-only mode. Isn't that a result of some changes in yt extension? --Senvaikis (talk) 20:46, May 11, 2012 (UTC)
I didn't do anything yet. The extension didn't change recently, nor did the template, so I guess this change comes from YouTube. --Rinaku 14:56, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

No, I didn't notice any changes on Yt side - my local test page, used for audio-mode implementation, still works fine, showing the same (bottom) part of yt object, with all player controls visible. So, I'm pretty sure: the reason - some changes in css. Hope Chris may know that better... --Senvaikis (talk) 13:28, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Since a few weeks or months, the YT player changed its design. It hides the controls for small player sizes to enlarge the movie.
Test it: set the height back to the usual height of 209 (with Firebug) and click on the play button in the middle. The player recalculates the display mode on playback event, thus it notices that the player object is big enough to display a fixed controlbar again. Ergo the controls stay visible, during playback, even if you reduce the size back to 25. On the other way round, if you click onto the player (but not on the title as that'll open the YouTube page, click somewhere behind) and then use the spacebar to start the video, you'll see that the recalculation found the viewport to be too small for fixed controls, which is why it hides them after 2 seconds.
The "audio-only mode" is in fact a layout bug-using: the controls are at the bottom, therefore the code for them is internally the bottom-most within the player object. Like in HTML, the element defined later covers the elements before. Because of that, if the video (fixed to top border) and controlbar (fixed to bottom border) are pushed one upon the other, the controls stayed visible, hiding the video. Et voila, audio-only "mode".
The new algorithm makes the toolbar switch to hover-mode though. As a video-player isn't designed to be that small (nobody watches videos at 25 pixels), it looks buggy, but actually it's just the usual view: title-bar above movie with play button, and hidden controls until you start the video.
You didn't notice that "feature" because on YouTube your player is usually large enough. That is: either wait until they pin the controls again, or disable audio mode. I have no idea why this test page of yours still works though... Can I see it? - Chris 21:40, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, Chris, you are right, speaking about current yt player (version #3), and all the tests described above (with the same results) I've made before writing my last msg :).
But then I checked my old local testpage:
    width="300" height="25" id="YT_g0SicAEukI8">
    <param name="movie" value=""/>
    <param name="wmode" value="transparent"/>
    <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"/>
As you can see, it contains a slightly different yt object, returned by #yt extension. And if you try it, - it'll still work in an 'old-style'... But if Rinaku is right and #yt code's still the same, then it should contain the same yt object innerHTML (see the code). But it doesn't, so - some changes on our side should be done anyway, imo. --Senvaikis (talk) 07:50, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
The code produced by the YT extension is:
<object width="252" height="25" id="YT_g0SicAEukI8" data="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"><param value="" name="movie"><param value="transparent" name="wmode"><param value="always" name="allowScriptAccess"></object>
With linebreaks and some sorting you get this:
Your "old style" YT-Extension
    width="300" height="25" id="YT_g0SicAEukI8">
    <param name="movie" value=""/>
    <param name="wmode" value="transparent"/>
    <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"/>
    width="252" height="25" id="YT_g0SicAEukI8">
    <param name="movie" value="">
    <param name="wmode" value="transparent">
    <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always">
As you can see, it's not different. Actually, if I copy the current (unsorten) code onto an empty HTML page like you did with your test app, it also works. But I can't image how our page configuration might influence the YouTube-Player? Any idea? - Chris 20:32, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, you can take the full source code of this page, save it to a HTML file, open it in your browser, and the YT box shows just the control bar like it's supposed to. I'm stumped. — 6×9 (Talk) 21:18, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Don't you think, that extension, producing yt player for our pages, isn't one, which code we are looking at - just can't find any other explanation. No, that's impossible.
Then remains CSS (some player props may be affected through it). That's not truth also. --Senvaikis (talk) 21:37, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
Made an experiment, placing the same yt test-object on hosted web-site. Result: the same yt object behaves differently when used on a local page and viewed from web page, without using any additional CSS.
Seems yt/a should be anounced deprecated (and replaced by just yt)...--Senvaikis (talk) 05:39, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Rather than marking it deprecated, why not add "?version=2" after the video id? Works at least on my local xampp installation. Funnily enough, "?version=3" breaks it for the local file as well… So it seems YT decides on which API version it chooses based on the client. — 6×9 (Talk) 06:33, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Seems it's the referer (or lack thereof). (Shortened) GET request from localhost:
GET /v/g0SicAEukI8&enablejsapi=1&playerapiid=g0SicAEukI8 HTTP/1.1
Accept: */*
Referer: http://localhost/index.html
User-Agent: wouldn't you like to know
Response is shockwave/flash from
When opening as file protocol the request is identical, except that the referer is missing. Response is a 303 and redirection to So I'd guess YT interprets missing referer as sign of a broken client and switches to older, possibly more compatible version. — 6×9 (Talk) 07:19, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
If #yt code may be changed, - why then change can't be done to a new-type embeding code? Just look here :) --Senvaikis (talk) 11:36, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Damn, - on my laptop iframe looks the same as the object (contarry to my work-desktop, where iframe's controls were visible from the start, without auto=hiding = exactly as in an "old-style" player). Don't understand nothing...--Senvaikis (talk) 15:05, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

AMG Pop ID -> Rovi Music ID

Hi all.

Hope most of you have noticed already a new look of AMG. Changes seem to be only visual... but only at the first glance. The most important change (in terms of our footer templates) is implementation of Rovi Music ID.
Yes, LW amg-links still point to the correct amg performers & releases; yes, you still may find their AMG Pop ID (used as amgID in our templates), though now they aren't "on the very surface", as it used to be earlier.
But that can't be said about songs: now you'll not find (easy, I mean) any song AMG Pop ID; moreover - all existing songs amg-links now are dead.
So the question is quite rhetorical imo, but anyway it should be put: what do you think about moving from AMG Pop ID to Rovi Music ID?
--Senvaikis (talk) 07:47, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
P.S. Here's my voting: I'm for moving :)
I voted by updating {{allmusic}} to allow the new format :-) I've added prefixes mn for artist, mw for album and mt for song. There might be more, so keep an eye out. Now let's sit back and watch Old-style Allmusic Link grow… — 6×9 (Talk) 18:56, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
UPDATE: Seems like allmusic have fixed things; old-style song links work now. — 6×9 (Talk) 13:38, June 5, 2012 (UTC)
done Done . --Senvaikis (talk) 17:07, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
Great! Now we only have to wait for the job queue to catch up. - Chris 23:04, June 14, 2012 (UTC)
To catch up what? :) --Senvaikis (talk) 10:03, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

French spaces?

Hi, I noticed minor changes in LW lately, most of them are fine, but there is a bug (hopefully not a feature ;-) that seems new to me:

Spaces before question marks (and probably other two-piece punctuation symbols) seem to be transformed into their HTML entity (&#160;) which do appear as code within the <lyrics> tags. I believe this is due to French typesetting where you add a space before exclamation and question marks and such, and want to avoid page breaks just before these symbols.

Is there a possibility to either allow HTML entities within <lyrics> or to not have no-break spaces automagically inserted into the wiki code? – Tauriel (talk) 10:44, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

I think I know what you mean, but I'm not positive. Can you link me to a page where this happens?
-Sean Colombo (talk) 19:21, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
Select any random song page, insert a space followed by ? or ! anywhere in the lyric box, hit preview mode and watch the regular #32 being magically turned into a HTML-encoded #160. — 6×9 (Talk) 20:48, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, 6x9, or try, e.g., Christophe Maé:On S'attache, (second) last verse. (As said, it's mostly a problem of French language songs.) – Tauriel (talk) 21:34, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
Our devboxes have a bug. Should be fixed tomorrow & I'll try to give it a peek when I'm in the office. -Sean Colombo (talk) 02:27, July 23, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. We're on a MediaWiki 1.19 bug-fix week so I fixed it. It's working on devboxes: here is the changeset: it'll go out with the weekly-release a week from Wednesday (so August 15th).
-Sean Colombo (talk) 19:03, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

LyricWiki goes YouTube!

Hi, today I've been issuing another LyricWiki tutorial at the LyricWiki channel on YouTube. I'm sorry for the stupid mistakes I made (like 'sign' for 'character' Blush), but hey – working and talking a foreign language at the same time is not that easy. Next tutorials will be on "how to move and redirect pages", then "how to add metadata" and later on page ranking. It'll take a little while because I have to reconfigure half the PC for recording (installing English Firefox, disable/hide add-ons, hide bookmarks, set Wikia interface and editor to English, translate the customized parts of them, and so on). But it'll be done some day. If you want to comment on the videos, you can tell me here or below the video. - Chris 23:59, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Searching lyrics

Hi I am hoping someone will be able to help me find the title and artist of a children's song from about the 1950's or 1960's or there about.

Lyrics in the song go:

It's too wonderful,
It's too marvelous
And it's believed to be absolutley true in fairyland
And if a wizard had to wave his wand then you would understand
Why every little boy and girl in the world believe in fairytales

Thanks, DiSa — The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs), 07:28, 23 August, 2012 (UTC)‎.

Going fulltime on game stuff

Just to make it more widely visible than my own talk page... I wanted to mention that after Wednesday, I'll be going fulltime working on my startup: BlueLine Game Studios. I've handed things off fairly well (and will continue to do so over the next couple of days). Wikia's mobile team will be taking care of the LyricWiki Android & iOS apps. Gracenote Reporting was already done by someone else last quarter, so that appears to be working smoothly. I've documented everything else I could think of.

If there is anything broken, the best place to go is Special:Contact - they will answer within 24 hours.

It's been a fun ride, but I'll be working almost not-at-all on LyricWiki & Wikia code since I'll be pouring myself into making games (I'm sure I'll still edit LW occasionally though). Feel free to follow along on my @seancolombo or @BlueLineGames twitter accounts.

I love you guys <3 -Sean Colombo (talk) 21:58, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, this is really sad. You're leaving LyricWiki to be "occasionally back". You know, I know only little about your plans, but I know enough about life to see that this is a promise to make us not lose our heads, but actually you have no idea how frequently occasionally is, right? Sob
Well, I hope you'll be successful with your new start-up — one day, you might have a paper on your desk, some guy from Germany applying for a job at BlueLine Game Studios, a guy with plenty of ideas for new games... Cool
Good luck, and goodbye, ol' friend! You will be missed Sad - Chris 01:05, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
Good luck! (Typed "lick" on my first attempt there, which, now that I think about it, actually might be a good wish for you, too.) Trainman (talk) 20:48, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, Sean, - You just can't leave us without writing one more bot - for orphaned users & admins patronage! :)
As always in such cases - sad to see off, and glad for your successes. Try to visit your poor orphans as often as you can. Good luck! --Senvaikis (talk) 12:40, September 12, 2012 (UTC)
It's the end of an era. Best of luck with your new venture! — 6×9 (Talk) 18:25, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

New Forums now available in Labs

New Forums now available in Labs. Any admin feel like enabling it? Could replace this page. ConsumeTheSky (talk) 19:27, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

General layout

This site's layout is pretty nice and is fairly easy to navigate. However, the main page in particular is an assault on the eyes. It doesn't follow any of the styles seen throughout the site, such as in templates, etc. The text shadowing is way too heavy against that grey background (that deep of a shade of grey adds a somewhat morbid feeling, by the way). The color contrasts make it appear very outdated.

The "Browse Lyrics By" section is almost laughably impractical, it definitely should not be the first section listed. I think it's fair to assume the average visitor will be here to look up lyrics to a specific song or lyrics by a specific artist, not here to browse the hundreds of thousands of songs (which happen to be in hundreds of languages) alphabetically. The "User Blogs" section is very outdated. If not removed altogether, it should be part of the secondary column on the right. Why put the "Song of the Day" and "Album of the Week" sections in this column? These are updated constantly and are quite interesting. Why not put these in the more noticeable left column?

I don't fully understand how this design came to be, was it one person, was it multiple people, was it community consensus? That's neither here nor there, though. The main page just needs a nice redo. Fingernails (talk) 02:27, December 18, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. The Twitter widget is not wide enough and doesn't look custom to the wiki at all (probably because it isn't). A simple text feed instead would be much nicer.

Harmonic Analysis via

What do you think about including harmonic analysis of songs to this Wiki? There is a website called, which has a nice Wiki Database for harmonic analysis. We could include links to the harmonic analysis in the same manner we link to iTunes etc. now. The website also allows to embed the analysis, so we could also use that as a standard. Nixoninajar (talk) 14:40, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure we'd want to embed their analyses here; it seems like something that would be of very limited interest to the people who visit this site (I have a feeling almost everyone is primarily looking for the lyrics, and couldn't care less about the harmonic analysis -- myself, even though I'm a big music lover, I know next to nothing about music theory).
It would probably be more appropriate to add the option of a link within the SongFooter template, similar to the fashion in which a link to is an optional feature. However, I'm not really the one to do that, since I only know slightly more about wiki template programming than I do about music theory -- we'll see if one of the other admins sees this and is interested. Trainman (talk) 07:37, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
I totally agree with You that linking is probably a better option than embedding.
For those who are sceptic about the interest in this: I can only assure You that anyone who plays an instrument and really likes a song is at some point curious how it would sound on his/her instrument, and a harmonic analysis helps to try it out. And since nobody will be disturbed by linking to them, it can only increase the quality of LyricWiki. Nixoninajar (talk) 14:40, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


how do i stop getting notifications about changes to a page? and it claims it's a favorite, but all i did was submit it. furthermore, it never really changes. it just keeps sending me an email cuz someone added an itunes and musicbrainz link. a year ago. =/ -- Paradive (talk) 05:29, December 31, 2012 (UTC)paradive

You may have accidentally clicked on the "Follow" link on that page while you were editing it -- go back to that page and see if "Following" appears at the lower left of your browser window. If so, click on the word "Following"; it'll change back to "Follow" to show that you've unfollowed it.
Which page is it? I can look at the history and try to figure out why you were getting notifications even though it looked like nothing had changed. Trainman (talk) 07:20, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Maybe you have an option enabled that also adds all your edited pages to your watchlist. You can change this and the notification email settings in your preferences. You can use the link to immediately go there. Alternatively the preferences link is in the dropdown in the top right corner if you hover your username (do not click on your username though). - Chris 05:21, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
i'm lost.
i'm not following it ( ) and i wanna have it enabled to get emails of changes i've created.
but this one has never changed except for the links added over a year ago.
Paradive (talk) 07:38, January 1, 2013 (UTC)paradive

Sorry, but I don't understand. "i wanna have it enabled to get emails of changes" pretty much contradicts your first post "how do i stop getting notifications about changes to a page"?

Anyways, here's a step by step explaination of what works how. You will then hopefully be able to figure out the right settings on your own.


At first, you need to understand that the e-mails are not directly triggered by any edits themselves. They are triggered by changes on pages you follow. You can see which pages you are following on Special:Following. You can follow or unfollow a page by clicking on the "Follow" or "Unfollow" link in the bottom bar when you are on the page.

Automated following

You can make some settings regarding whether you want to automatically follow page you've been working on. You can use the page Special:Preferences, tab "Email", to choose which pages you want to automatically follow:

  • Pages you created (you will follow a page after you have created it)
  • Pages you edited (you will follow a page after you have edited it)
  • Pages you move (this option is maybe not visible for you yet)
Notificatoion emails

In a certain interval, the system will gather all your followed pages and send you a notification email about which pages have been changed after you last visited them. If you visit a page while being logged in, the system will not notify you about the changes. This also means you will be never notified about your own changes. It'll also probably continue to notify you until you visited the page.

Customizing the notification level

However, you can decide on which pages and what kind of edits the system should react to. You can also set these options in the preferences on the tab "Email" under "Email me when...":

  • Check the first option if you want to be notified if a page you are following was changed by another user after you visited that page for the last time
  • Check the second option if you also want to be notified if the other user marked that edit as "Small"
  • Check the third option to be notified when your talk page changes. I am not sure you need to follow your page to make this option work.
  • If you check fourth option, you'll not immediately notified about every single change, but the system makes you a weekly list of all unseen changes and emails this list to you.
  • The fifth option does not have to do anything with watching or changing pages. It's the Wikia newsletter.
Alternative to emails

Alternatively to being notified via email, you can use Special:Watchlist to directly see which pages have been edited. If you enable "Use advanced recent changes" in the preferences on the tab "Under the hood", it's also make it possible to check the pages that have been edited multiple times since your last visit.

I hope this helps. Please read all of it carefully and do not just skip over it. Wink - Chris 03:40, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

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