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Help with Anime Song boxes?

Is there a help page on anime song boxes? I've looked on a few of them but don't seem to be able to figure out how they are supposed to be done at all... Kyoudou (talk) 13:31, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Am I Allowed To Certify?

Whenever I upload a song, I listen to the recording to make sure that the lyrics are right. But I don't know whether you need to have special permission to certify a song. I also don't know if you're allowed to certify lyrics that I have, myself, uploaded.

Also, is it just the administrators/bureaucrats who have permission to change page rankings? --RWDCollinson (talk) 10:19, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Anybody with an account can certify any lyrics, and as long as they follow the guidelines, anybody can change the page rankings too. Hope this helps! - OneTwoThreeFall talk 10:36, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! One more question: I can't work out what the 'audio status is' bit means on the 'page ranking info'. I can't find an explanation of this in the help. I assume that the 'video status' is whether there's an embedded YouTube video. --RWDCollinson (talk) 12:54, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
No problem! I'm not sure if it's explicitly mentioned in the help pages yet (it's lightly implied here), but the audio status requires either the GoEar or Spotify parameter to be added for that song, and yes, video is for YouTube. - OneTwoThreeFall talk 13:54, January 6, 2016 (UTC)

Cover Template Not Working

I've already mentioned this on the 'Report A Problem' page, but this page seems to be monitored more frequently and it seems like a pretty serious problem (at least if it's affecting anybody else). The cover template seems to have become corrupt in some way, and is generating half a page of nonsense above the lyrics whenever it's present. --RWDCollinson (talk) 12:10, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Now that is an issue. 6 is the admin who deals with all the templates and stuff, and we're about to do an overhaul of {{Song}}, so it may be something to do with that. I'll leave a message on the admin portal about it, but in the mean time you'll just have to avoid using {{Cover}} for now. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 13:21, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. But this also means I need to avoiding editing any page which already has the cover tag. Is this affecting you in the same way? --RWDCollinson (talk) 14:19, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
Yes this is affecting me. If you need to edit a page with the Cover template, just comment it out using <!-- [COVER TEMPLATE HERE] -->. Hopefully 6 comes online soon, as he should hopefully know what to do. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 14:22, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, was @ work until now. I've restored {{Cover}} & am currently touching all pages using it; might take a while though since there are over 30,000. In the meantime, if you see a corrupted page, hitting "edit" and saving without changing anything should fix it. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:56, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

iTunes and Spotify IDs

This is probably a really obvious question, but what's the easiest way of finding out a song's iTunes ID? It's in the URL for artists and albums, but I don't know where to look for individual songs.

Also, is the way of finding out the Spotify ID without having a Spotify account? --RWDCollinson (talk) 16:06, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

For iTunes song ID's, use the linkmaker and search for the song.
For Spotify, you can try Google searching the song name with the word "track", and the link will probably appear in the search results. Otherwise you'll need an account (which is free), or ask someone who does have an account, like me (if we do it like that, I can set up a subpage for you to list songs you need Spotify IDs for). Hope this helps - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 16:13, January 7, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, very helpful! I signed-up to a Spotify account and the songs in the following album are greyed-out and I can't find them on Google; does that mean that they're not available yet?
--RWDCollinson (talk) 09:33, January 8, 2016 (UTC)
Basically, yes. Possible reasons:
  • Some albums are regional locked and aren't accessible from every country (Brave New World...)
  • Users can create playlists in Spotify, which might include local files on their computers of
  • Songs, which aren't yet available at Spotify at all
    There is an option in the settings menu to hide unavailable songs. --Fassbrause (talk) 12:36, January 8, 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, it looks like they aren't available, at least in the UK. You can still get the Spotify IDs from them however, so some people can get some use out of it. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 12:53, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Collaborations & Additional Albums

I'm trying to change Stevie Nicks:Leather And Lace to Stevie Nicks & Don Henley:Leather And Lace, as it is a duet. I have correctly filled out the collaboration template, but this has broken the 'additional albums', as they're all looking for albums by Stevie Nicks & Don Henley rather than Stevie Nicks. Is there a way around this? --RWDCollinson (talk) 10:08, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I found the answer on the page for the template! --RWDCollinson (talk) 10:31, January 14, 2016 (UTC)

Incomplete lyrics

I'm having trouble deciphering the lyrics to a song. I've completed approx. 90% but can't comprehend the rest. I searched the internet but can't find the lyrics elsewhere. Should I abandon the song or publish what I have managed to transcribe? I've tried the help pages here for an answer but can't find one. --Rupples (talk) 15:01, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

You can put up what you have and add the {{partial}} template to the page. — 6×9 (Talk) 15:04, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. --Rupples (talk) 15:12, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Broken Editing Box

Is it just me, or is the editing screen broken? Even as I type this, the screen is strangely doubled up, an extra and redundant scroll-bar and a much compressed editing space. The highlighting colours are messed-up. That's not a terribly articulate description, but if anybody else is suffering from this, you'll know what I mean. It's been like this all day--RWDCollinson (talk) 14:50, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

It's not just you. I've notified wikia staff; let's hope they fix it soon. — 6×9 (Talk) 15:16, February 2, 2016 (UTC)

Song Released Only On Music Video/B-Side Singles

What's the right format to use for a song which appeared only on a music video, or only as the B-side of a single? Should singles with an A and a B side be counted as albums?

I'm currently trying to work out how to categorise and fill out the header for Tim McGraw:The Ride, which was released only as a double-song video alongside 'Real Good Man' by the same artist. Wikipedia explains this here Wikipedia16. --RWDCollinson (talk) 13:59, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Singles with unique B-sides count as albums if that's the only release the B-side appears on (even if it was only a unique A-side, it should still count). However, seeing as "The Ride" does not appear on any public release (only radio singles), it should go under its own heading on artist page, such as "Non-Album Songs". - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 15:19, February 3, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, that's really helpful. Does that even apply to singles that (now moving forward in time a bit) were released only digitally? --RWDCollinson (talk) 09:13, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
Correct. If a song was single-only (either digital or physical), create the single page. Examples of that are here, here, and here. Of course, if the song gets confirmed as part of an album later, then it can be deleted. XxTimberlakexx (talk) (contribs)01:33, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Guidance on adding embedded videos

I'm look for guidance on adding embedded videos to articles. If a song doesn't have a music video (official or live), should an audio 'video' be embedded? If so, does that count as 'video' for the talk page? Also, what if one runs into an official video that isn't on the artist's official YouTube page? Is that legal? --RWDCollinson (talk) 11:29, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
Looksharp (talk) 23:36, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

I don't know of any particular guidelines re. what sort of videos to use, but I can't see any issue with using an audio-only video where a visual video (music video/live performance) isn't available. Not too sure what you mean by "legal" YouTube video - if you're meaning copyright issues/royalties, that's generally handled by YouTube so even non-official videos give the artist + publisher royalties/ad revenues, as far as I know... Hope this helps a little, OneTwoThreeFall talk 17:28, February 4, 2016 (UTC)
If a song doesn't have a music video, then yeah, an audio video is fine, and it counts as a video on the talk page. Don't worry about any videos being "legal" or not - if they weren't legal, YouTube would take them down. However, I usually don't add videos of live performances to song pages simply because they don't always follow the studio version lyrics. That's just my preference, though. XxTimberlakexx (talk) (contribs)01:35, February 5, 2016 (UTC)
A lot of the ones I use are audio only, have a # sign before the artist, and read underneath the video "Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group North America." Sounds official. And of course, Vevo. I use others, but mainly these.
Looksharp (talk) 23:36, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

Non-roman fLetter

I'd like to point out that the fact that the documentation indicates to specify the language of the character for non-roman fLetters seems problematic to me.

For instance, if a song had for title "人 and mice", would the fLetter be "Chinese" (as in Chinese script)? If so, a Japanese song named "人間" should also have "Chinese" for fLetter.

Basically, I think "language of the character" should be "script of the character", but a lot of songs/albums would need to have their fLetter changed Idlusen (talk) 17:27, February 27, 2016 (UTC)

Unreleased soundtracks

I'd like to add the lyrics to some songs composed for the movie Idiots and Angels, which has its soundtrack referenced on IMDB. I can't however find any release, while Help:Soundtracks seems to imply this is a prerequisite. How to proceed? Idlusen (talk) 14:17, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

If there's no official soundtrack release you can always create a List page at LyricWiki:Lists/PAGENAME or list the songs at respective artist's pages under a "Songs on Soundtracks" subsection. Hth  · Lichtweber talk service  19:50, March 8, 2016 (UTC)


Today, I keep being told to go through a ReCaptcha exercise whenever I posted 'external links' (ie, pretty much anything in a page footer), as though I wasn't logged in.

Is anybody else having this problem? --RWDCollinson (talk) 15:04, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Started today.
Looksharp (talk) 23:31, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Has anyone complained to Wikia about this? This is a pretty major impediment to editing. --RWDCollinson (talk) 11:19, March 9, 2016 (UTC)
Does it still happen to you? I never had the problem to begin with though and can't help. Greetings, --Fassbrause (talk) 20:38, April 4, 2016 (UTC)
No. For me it lasted only a day.
Looksharp (talk) 00:00, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

punctuation in article title

Please see'Pazzo!' (and the song is listed as such on the artist and album pages.) The song title is italicized on the cd cover and in the booklet. Is an apostrophe a replacement for italics? Can't the lyric entry be listed as simply Pazzo! ? Picky detail but might be worth knowing for future oddness. Cheers. derekbd (talk) 17:44, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

Italics is formatting, like font color, and therefore not to be reproduced in the pagename. Whether to italicize the track listing on album & artist page is a different matter… — 6×9 (Talk) 18:56, April 2, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing with redirect. derekbd (talk) 19:09, April 2, 2016 (UTC)

Track list on artist page with a few songs in the album

In Martina Stoessel:Tini (2016), Jorge Blanco sings one song alone and two together with Martina Stoessel. How should this be listed on his artist page (which is yet to be created)? nyuszika7h (talk) 09:32, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

I made edits to the page in question. Hope that answers your question :) - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 15:08, April 23, 2016 (UTC)
@Patzilla777: Thanks for the corrections on the album page, but I was talking about Jorge Blanco's page, I'm not sure how to list it there. I'll create it to show you what I had in mind and you can correct that if needed. nyuszika7h (talk) 15:55, April 23, 2016 (UTC)
I made some edits to his page now. I'm not 100% sure that's the best way, but it makes it clearer that it's not his album. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 16:05, April 23, 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect lyrics (different song?)

The lyrics for Los Auténticos Decadentes:Corazón are definitely wrong, it might be a different song. You can see the song for yourself here: – nyuszika7h (talk) 18:28, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

That appears to be Carole King's song (also has a cover by Titan), and it has many duplicates:
The one by Los Auténticos Decadentes is completely different though so that page should probably be deleted for now unless someone can add the correct lyrics before that. (I'm not that good at Spanish, the ones I added are from official subtitles/lyric videos.) – nyuszika7h (talk) 18:36, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
The lyrics are updated, I made the transcription and I also added the Youtube link. ~Steffy13~ > talk > contribs 19:17, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! nyuszika7h (talk) 19:28, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Asterisks & The Cover Template

I just noticed on Amy Vachal:Bye Bye Bye that the appearance of an asterisk in the name of the band *NSYNC has disrupted the cover template. Is there any way of fixing this, or should I just remove the asterisk and let it work through the redirect? --RWDCollinson (talk) 11:00, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks for the notice. — 6×9 (Talk) 08:49, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Need help with lyrics

There is a line that's unclear in Leonardo Cecchi & Beatrice Vendramin:Unbelievable: "You know that you ... fall down but you stand up" – I wrote something there but I'm not sure about it. I've uploaded a short clip here. If anyone could help with that, I'd appreciate it. – nyuszika7h (talk) 14:09, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds to me like "'ve grown up and you fall...". — 6×9 (Talk) 14:15, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes sense, why didn't I think of that... nyuszika7h (talk) 14:17, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

Multiple languages, (partially) different artists

The song Various Artists:Incredibile also has an English version, but I just realized that one (Various Artists:Unbelievable) is sung by all the main cast members, per both iTunes and the music video. Is there a way to make {{MultipleLanguages}} display correctly in this case?

Not at the moment, sorry - a replacement template has been discussed, but I haven't gotten around to working on it yet. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 22:43, May 16, 2016 (UTC)

2nd Pic in Artist Header?

In the 'Artist Header' of Lethian Dreams, Pic is just the band logo. is it possible to add a pic with the band members also in the Artist Header? --Weha (talk) 08:10, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

done. Logo pic didn't conform Lw policy requirements for images, thus has been deleted and replaced by band photo. See also other changes maden, and according info on our help (removed redundant releases, retitled/redirected pages, reuploaded album art images, formatting etc). --Senvaikis (talk) 10:27, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, have seen the edits. Will use it for reference. Understand the redundancy issue. Removed the album from song headers and just mentioned it as trivia. --Weha (talk) 10:41, May 31, 2016 (UTC)

Remix with exact same lyrics

Should I create a page (or a redirect) for a remix that has the exact same lyrics as the original version? nyuszika7h (talk) 09:20, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

A redirect should be created in this instance. Remixes with identical lyrics do not need their own pages. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 11:15, June 24, 2016 (UTC)

Simultaneous but different choruses?

Several songs I'm trying to edit have the two artists each singing a different chorus at the same time. How should I format the lyrics so I can include each one's lines without confusion? - HawkofYggdrasil (talk) 06:09, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

That's not documented in any form of strict rules, but in most cases you may try to distinguish choruses by enclosing one of them in brackets, as it has been done here. hth, --Senvaikis (talk) 08:20, June 28, 2016 (UTC)
As above; alternatively, some pages simply put one after the other, and someone listening to the song would be able to tell that they're sung at the same time. One method I've tried is here - when they sing different lines at the same time, I put them on the same line separated by a slash. However, that's certainly not the most readable, and most admins prefer a minimum of vocalist notations. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 19:38, June 28, 2016 (UTC)

New version of album with existing songs plus a bonus track

They released a Spanish version of Martina Stoessel:Tini (2016), containing the Spanish songs from the two discs of the original album, and a bonus track Martina Stoessel:Siempre Brillarás (Spanish/English Version). How should this be handled on the wiki? nyuszika7h (talk) 09:52, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

The tracklist can be added to the same album page, like this. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:49, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Alternative edition ASIN

Here is the deluxe version of Lodovica Comello:Universo (2013) on Amazon, is it possible to add this to the page? (talk) 17:07, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

A little help needed with lyrics

In College 11:Diamond Eyes, on the line "In everything they say", I think that's not exactly what they say, but I'm not sure what it's supposed to be, could someone help with that? Here is the relevant part. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:40, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

I think that sounds right, they probably just added the "d" sound to make it easier to sing. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 20:46, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Need help with a part of lyrics

I'm not sure what she says at the end of the first verse in Olivia Holt:History, does anyone have an idea about that? nyuszika7h (talk) 09:36, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

I added something but if someone thinks it's something else, feel free to edit. nyuszika7h (talk) 12:04, July 15, 2016 (UTC)
I would think it's "Here goes letting your hair down", could be something else though. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 17:40, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

To what 'album' do I attribute a single only release?

I'm sure I could find it on a compilation somewhere, but then I'd have to add the rest of the compilation and life's probably too short. I automatically just put 'single' in the album slot because that's what you do when you're filling out copyright forms, but is that what you do on here? I haven't been able to find an example I can copy.--Deke42 (talk) 15:34, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Deke42: If it's on an album/compilation, you can add it, you aren't required to create the page for it. Otherwise, create an album page for the single under Artist:Title (YYYY) with only one track which is that song, and |type=single in the {{AlbumHeader}}. – nyuszika7h (talk) 18:26, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Artist unknown for OST

I'm planning to create Code Lyoko Featuring Subdigitals (2007) and the song pages, but I can't seem to find the actual artists for most of the songs (except for Noam:A World Without Danger), only a fictional band called "Subdigitals". What should I use as artist in this case? nyuszika7h (talk) 10:57, July 22, 2016 (UTC)

I suspect that this may be frowned upon but I'd put "Subdigitals" including the quotation marks. In print this is a recognised way of indicating that the given name is incorrect or false, deliberately or otherwise. --Deke42 (talk) 21:34, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
@ amazon Discogs1 @Discogs Kingnee - Musicbrainz @MB @wikipedia
Looks like "Code Lyoko" is the title of the animated series, "Subdigitals" is the fictitious band title, and the Production Company (real artist/SpA?) is "MoonScoop Group". Though the Page Names and actual artist title may still be disputable.--ES (talk) 22:02, July 22, 2016 (UTC)
In the 50s the group in the film 'Rock Pretty Baby' were referred to on the album as Discogs1 Jimmy Daley and the Ding-a-Lings, their name in the film, but where a particular artist was known (As opposed to just session musicians) it was put in brackets afterwards, however by the 60s and onwards (The Beagles, The Banana Splits, The Archies, Josie and the Pussycats) they were simply referred to by the name they were known by.
I don't know if this helps but it makes sense to me, if the artist is a known artist use both names, if not just use the name everyone knows the song as being by.--Deke42 (talk) 21:23, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Current/former members for disbanded band

For a disbanded band (Superchick), should I list all members as "former" or list the members before the disbandment as "current"? nyuszika7h (talk) 21:33, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Logically if they have disbanded, all members are former members. --ES (talk) 21:35, July 24, 2016 (UTC)
Thought so, just wanted to make sure. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:41, July 24, 2016 (UTC)

Lunacit Records / Lugilator Records

I have trouble finding evidence for the existence of Lunacit Records and Lugilator Records. iTunes credits Lucía Gil:Más Allá Del País De Las Princesas (2013) to Lunacit Records / Pop Up Música (the latter seems to exist), while AllMusic credits the album to "Lugilator Records". The latter sounds more fake, because "Lugilator" is the name given to Lucía's fans. But I can't seem to find evidence of Lunacit Records' existence either, apart from some album credits on iTunes, Amazon, Spotify, Shazam, etc. for Lucía Gil and Adrián Rodríguez. It may be a misspelling of Lunatic Records, but a Google search for "lucia gil" "lunatic records" turns up nothing, and the artist listing on their website is empty. nyuszika7h (talk) 11:36, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

And Lunatic seems to be an Indonesian label, so unlikely... nyuszika7h (talk) 11:40, August 31, 2016 (UTC)

Might be best to wait until the artist appears on discogs... --ES (talk) 11:52, August 31, 2016 (UTC)
Alright, I found some kind of proof for Lunacit. Lucía tagged her father in this photo, whose account name is "lunacitmusic". – No proof for Lugilator yet, but now I wouldn't be surprised if that's a thing as well, given that Lunacit is run by her father. nyuszika7h (talk) 10:41, December 17, 2016 (UTC)
I found the back cover for Lucía Gil:Más Allá Del País De Las Princesas (2013), which also confirms Lunacit: – and also it says its website is nyuszika7h (talk) 10:49, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Album with tracklist not fully announced

How should I add tracks to an upcoming album when the full tracklist hasn't been announced yet? Should I just add Track 1 etc, without the link, Track 1 with the link, or should I keep them as singles until the full tracklist is announced? --Ave879103 (talk) 11:15, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

You can add them to the artist page under the album name like usual (or "TBA (2016)" if the album name is unannounced) using "*" instead of "#", but do not create the actual album page until the full tracklist is available.
And always link songs, even if the lyrics have not been added to the site yet, because this makes it easier for people to add the lyrics when they do become available. Hope this helps - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 11:49, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Album / artist 'by' problem

On the page Israel Houghton:You Are Good, the header box is stating that the song 'appears on the live album Alive in South Africa (2005) by Israel Houghton'. I can't work out why the redundant text 'by Israel Houghton' is appearing. --14:03, September 4, 2016 (UTC)

There are two spaces in the artist's name in the SH. — 6×9 (Talk) 14:20, September 4, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I've fixed that. --RWDCollinson (talk) 09:29, September 6, 2016 (UTC)

Same lyrics, different lead singer/album

There is a song "Dig Deep (Miles Version)" on the album "Songs from Backstage, Vol. 4", and there's another version, "Dig Deep (Alya Version)" on Vol. 7. Both are performed by Josh Bogert (Miles) and Aviva Mongillo (Alya), the difference is the lead singer, but the lyrics are the exact same. Should separate pages be created for these or not? nyuszika7h (talk) 12:06, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Only one page should be created if the lyrics are identical. You can include a note in the trivia section of CreditBox about the difference in singers, like I have done on this page. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 14:26, September 17, 2016 (UTC)

Missing part of lyrics

I need help with a few parts of the lyrics at Various Artists:Never Let You Go. – nyuszika7h (talk) 15:11, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, XxTimberlakexx and Bobogoobo. Need a little help at Various Artists:Bringing Better Back as well. nyuszika7h (talk) 10:20, October 8, 2016 (UTC)

Deluxe edition with partial album and new songs

Usually deluxe edition tracks are included on the main album page, but this is different from usual so I want to make sure. This has some songs from the original album and two new songs (one of them was already released as a single earlier, but that's not important here). Should the new songs be added to Martina Stoessel:Tini (2016) or a separate album page created, like for Martina Stoessel:Tini (Spanish Version) (2016)? nyuszika7h (talk) 18:27, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Non-English Wikipedia links

Hi, Is there a way to link to a Wikipedia page that does not start with "". Not every artist/band has an English Wikipedia page, so it would be nice to be able to link to "" for German artists, "" for Swedish artists, "" for French artists ... Vssm2004 (talk) 23:32, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

Yes, precede the link with the language code and a colon. For an example, see the artistheader links on Nightwish. Note that an "en:" prefix is redundant and there's no point in adding it. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 00:15, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
thx for pointing this out Vssm2004 (talk) 17:06, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Josh Bogert lyrics

I need a little help figuring out some parts of Josh Bogert:Drowning In The Dark and Josh Bogert:Far Away. – nyuszika7h (talk) 10:50, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Done :) I wouldn't have expected a 16-year-old to make better stuff than most pop these days. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 22:42, November 12, 2016 (UTC)

Ray Stevens - "Santa Claus Is Watching You"

I have a question about how to handle this. The lyrics for Ray Stevens' song "Santa Claus Is Watching You" already exist here, but it's a bit confusing as there are three different versions of the song...

Version 1: Released as a single in 1962 and later appeared on the 1970 compilation album The Best of Ray Stevens. Approximately 2:16 in length.

Version 2: Extended version of the original. About a minute longer with additional lyrics:

Version 3: Released as a single in 1985 and originally appeared on the album I Have Returned that same year. This is the version currently found here.

I'm still trying to figure out where the second version originated.

Should I just use the extended version lyrics for the single, or skip that version until its origin can be tracked down?

Oldiesmann (talk) 04:17, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

About multi disk albums

if media is LP Record, shall we still use

Disc 1
Disc 2

or something like

LP 1
LP 2

instead ?

Didn't find any help/guidelines :/

It looks as though, for single albums at least, just plain 'Disc' is being used, but I would have thought that for a multi vinyl package
LP 1/1
side A
LP 1/2
side B
LP 2/1
LP 2/2
LP 3/1
etc would be better.

Album with two artists?

I have just finished creating lyric pages for the songs on this album [1] and now I want to add them to an album page to link them all together but I'm unsure how to create the page because the tracks on the album are by two different artists. --Mark b (talk) 17:39, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

For split albums, you can remove the default artist parameter in the {{AlbumHeader}} template, and use the split1 and split2 parameters instead. See the Less Than Jake / Against All Authority (1995) page for an example of this. Hope this helps, OneTwoThreeFall talk 18:05, February 3, 2017 (UTC)
That's perfect, thank you. --Mark b (talk) 19:03, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Cosmetic changes in lyrics

I noticed couple Gregorian's cover songs lyrics differ from what they sing. I would love to make this correct. Would you like to allow me to do this ?? --Jack Has1000 (talk) 21:46, February 14, 2017 (UTC)

Cover songs are not necessarily identical to originals. All songs are supposed to be transcribed as sung by the {{SongHeader}} artist. Please see Help:FS#Lyrics hth. --ES (talk) 21:54, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
This is what I meant. They are NOT transcribed as sung. For example: Wiki lyric's site: [[2]] and [Music video on YouTube:]. On lyric site there are many verses what are not sung. --Jack Has1000 (talk) 22:21, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
Can I amend them, please ?? --Jack Has1000 (talk) 17:31, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
Indeed, that is why lw is open to the public! --ES (talk) 18:06, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Lucía Gil – Dragonfly

Could someone look at the lyrics of Lucía Gil:Dragonfly? I just created the page, but I'm not sure about some parts which are probably wrong. nyuszika7h (talk) 14:02, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I made some changes, feel free to disagree with them. I'm not sure about the line you have as "the one above we long to", but I can't figure out anything else it could be right now, even with the lip syncing. ~Bobogoobo (talk) 02:39, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Correct use of fLetter Parameter with Greek or Accented characters

Help Help:FS#fLetter_Parameter point number 4 states "If the first letter is a character in a non-Latin alphabet such as Cyrillic, Greek, etc., or is an "accented" character such as Á, Ö, or Ç, use the true fLetter character, not fLetter = Symbol"

For clarification does "true fLetter" mean that fLetter for a song starting with the letter Ö should be O or Ö (or the Cyrillic/Greek character exactly) ?

Also, in Afrikaans we have 'n (meaning An), so would the fLetter for a song called 'n Reisiger be ' or Symbol or N ?

Perhaps I am being obtuse but it is not clear to me and I am wondering if I should update the docs to clarify for others in my position?

thanks in advance DesPhagues (talk) 13:08, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

"First letter" is misleading; "first character" is probably more fitting. So for "'n" it would be "Symbol". Read "true fLetter character" as "actual first character". I'll see whether I can make this section clearer. — 6×9 (Talk) 14:29, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hungarian names

Is there a consensus regarding Hungarian names? In Hungarian, the last name is usually put first (e.g. on a single cover, but also in spoken language). On lw I have found artist pages for Hungarian artists that follow the pattern LASTNAME FIRSTNAME (e.g. Szécsi Pál), but also Hungarian artists that follow the pattern FIRSTNAME LASTNAME (e.g. Gábor Szabó).

On English wikipedia they always swap last name and first name, here's an example:

en: Kati Wolf hu: Wolf Kati

Which way is the correct way to go on lw?

I'd prefer the English pattern, tbh.

--Kopf101 (talk) 17:25, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Performance name over real name, so both "Szécsi Pál" and "Gábor Szabó" appear to be at the correct home, as those are the names that appear on (at least the majority of) album covers. (Depends on the target audience I suppose…)
All covers on Discogs have "Wolf Kati" so that's the way to go (although the single album page on EN wikipedia shows "Kati Wolf"). In all cases, a redirect should be created for the other name variation. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:39, April 18, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Well, on international releases it's Kati Wolf. And her lw page (which was not created by me, I just named her as a random example) also uses Kati Wolf, even though her domestic single covers display her name as Wolf Kati. So I guess that her lw page is simply named incorrectly? If so, I'm gonna change it. The problem is that it's not a performance name we're talking about, it's just the regular name order in Hungary, which is different from the common name order in most other countries. --Kopf101 (talk) 05:45, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Manage Artist Name Change

I'm updating an artist profile. She has changed her artistic name and now uses only her first name since the release of her new album: Hania:The Hero Within (2017). How should this change be reflected on the wiki? Should old albums and songs keep her former name, or everything should be updated through the whole site? I ask mainly this question because her new album has songs from older albums, and I don't know how this should be reflected on the album playlist. --DaPhyre (talk) 01:46, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Editor Buttons

Currently I've got major problems with the editor buttons. Whenever I use "add albums", "tidy lyrics" or "tidy templates", the whole code is messed up. I've tried various different browsers but the buttons don't work properly anywhere. --Kopf101 (talk) 15:34, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

At JSP, go to test mode. --ES (talk) 15:46, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. --Kopf101 (talk) 16:31, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about that! It should be working now without need for test mode (the script's been reviewed). - OneTwoThreeFall talk 20:23, July 4, 2017 (UTC)

Same Artist & Song Name, but with different lyrics in different Albums

The Artist recorded two different albums, in which there is one and the same song, but with different lyrics. Different duration of the songs. Lyrics changed. The media player make request of lyrics via a link, i.e. received same lyrics.


  1. Сизокрилий голубоньку from Найкраще (2005), 2:21
  2. Сизокрилий голубоньку from Молитва (2006), 3:32

How true way? (Impulsar (talk) 01:07, July 11, 2017 (UTC))

Multiple songs with the same title.hth --ES (talk) 01:10, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
I created the disambig page and fixed the links on albums and artist page. Just edit the appropriate song to match what is sung. cheers--ES (talk) 01:29, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
thx for the created disambig page, i added lyrics for both variations, but now my media player Clementine shows a blank sheet instead lyrics of songs. :( Now, how get lyrics for this songs in media players? To write developers of Clementine? ;( My purpose - the lyrics of these songs should be as accessible as possible while listening.(Impulsar (talk) 02:42, July 11, 2017 (UTC))
I think you may need to rename the two versions of the song in your media library according to the new names we gave them. hth --ES (talk) 02:56, July 11, 2017 (UTC)
These songs are so designated by album publishers. If it was just for me, then there is no problem. Maybe will suggest all listeners to change the titles of these songs for shows lyrics by rules wikia? (Impulsar (talk) 03:21, July 11, 2017 (UTC))
As it stands, Сизокрилий Голубоньку is no longer a song page. However per Multiple songs with the same title, we can keep the more well known version of the song (if such is the case) at the original location, which would lead your media player to not find the other version.
Or another option would be to keep both versions of the song on the original song page, and discard the disambig page etc.
Personally I am against creating song pages that contradict existing album listings, but the docs specify the current (dismbig'd) arrangement. Other admins (sv!) may have better solutions. I'd suggest revisiting this thread in 24 hours. --ES (talk) 03:36, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Conflicting info on collaboration vs. featured artists

Need some input at Mike Perry, The Vamps & Sabrina Carpenter:Hands#Credits. – nyuszika7h (talk) 09:23, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

iTunes and MusicBrainz seem to credit it as Mike Perry ft. The Vamps and Sabrina Carpenter, so I'd go with that. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 13:04, July 14, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, for the album they do, but the single was credited as a collaboration and MB copied whatever iTunes and others said for both. I'll just revert it to featuring, at least for now. nyuszika7h (talk) 13:21, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

Cinderella - Somebody Save Me

Hello. Someone please can check Cinderella:Somebody Save Me. Most sites says the correct are "they kicked me out of my tree" and "when she connects you with a knife", I tried my best I think is kinda hard to understand some words the vocalist says. I even look for the insert to see the lyrics printed and seems it's really "tree", but to me it seems "dream". Thank you. Songsbr (talk) 02:16, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Stylization in SongHeader

When writing the SongHeader for a song with specific stylization, is there a way to make the text appear in the stylized format rather than the name due to LyricsWikia? Hopefully one that applies for both albums and song names

If anyone is wondering, it's this EP

Ave879103 (talk) 18:04, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

done --ES (talk) 20:27, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

Joe Cocker:Up Where We Belong

Hello, somebody can please change the name of the page Joe Cocker:Up Where We Belong. This is a duet, so the correct name is Joe Cocker & Jennifer Warnes:Up Where We Belong, Jennifer warnes is not just a featured singer. You can see in the credits of the lp and singles she's also the main singer. soundtrack and singles. I try to changed but says i don't have autorization. Songsbr (talk) 15:51, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

done - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 17:01, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Dealing with album names that contain the artist name, but are not their self-titled album

I'm working on creating pages for songs by "The Two Man Gentlemen Band", and I'm starting off with what seems to be their most popular album on iTunes Store, titled "Drip Dryin' with the Two Man Gentlemen Band" (2009), which also happens to be the only one of their albums I currently own a (digital) copy of. Before that, they did produce a self-titled debut album in 2005.

However, the Wikipedia page for the band just lists the album as "Drip Dryin'", possibly to keep the "discography" section of the page more uniform.

Now, while I was drafting a song page (I haven't published it yet, as I was only previewing it), I went ahead and typed in the full album name, but it looks a bit redundant. I'll show it here, but I did also copy the template to the public sandbox if a staff member wants to actually see it (then they can delete it after replying to this).

(I italicised the text in order to make it more visible to myself)

"This song is by The Two Man Gentlemen Band and appears on the album Drip Dryin' with the Two Man Gentlemen Band (2009)."

The SongHeader "album" parameter is like this: "The Two Man Gentlemen Band:Drip Dryin' with the Two Man Gentlemen Band (2009)"

So, when creating the album page later on, should I just have the album page be named "The Two Man Gentlemen Band:Drip Dryin' (2009)" instead, and maybe add a template to the top of the page that mentions the correct (official) name and that it had been shortened for anti-redundancy reasons? (and/or a redirect?)

I also duplicated the template in the public sandbox, but with the shorter name I just mentioned.

Kbhasi (talk) 17:28, September 28, 2017 (UTC) (minor edit added at 17:34)

It seems that someone has created a page for the band AFTER I posted this question, however, the year info for the albums seems to be incorrect compared to Wikipedia. I currently don't have a way to access iTunes Store, but I'll try to check info on Amazon Music.

Kbhasi (talk) 07:27, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Please see external links in album footers, earlier years (than other refs) are per discogs, and we usually use the earliest release year when external sites disagree. --ES (talk) 07:34, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

I just checked Amazon Music, and confirmed the album year info here on Lyrically is all incorrect. I'll try to see if I can correct the pages. In the meantime, I've reset the public sandbox.

For now, my initial question appears to have been answered. If anyone is browsing the archive (using the web browser "find on page" tool) and is wondering, it seems to be that the artist name should be excluded from the album name, unless it is their self-titled album.

Kbhasi (talk) 07:40, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks ES for the clarification.

Kbhasi (talk) 07:44, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Two artists with the same name?

I want to create a page for the band Golem, but there's already a band named GoleM, and so it registers as a duplicate. Is there a way to make a disambiguation page? I am new here and have no idea what I'm doing. Also, sorry if this has already been answered in a stupidly obvious place. Cicadian.Rhythm (talk) 00:05, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Please see Golem (Disambiguation). If you add one song for the new Golem, I'll take care of the rest. hth --ES (talk) 02:16, September 29, 2017 (UTC)
... please see your talk page. tia. --ES (talk) 05:00, October 2, 2017 (UTC)

Songs with alternate titles

If a song is known by 2 different names (Specifically, it was known by one name, but since then, iTunes and Spotify have changed the name), which name should be listed? The article can be found here: RIVRS

Ave879103 (talk) 12:18, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

If there's no album case tracklist to go by, either/or would be acceptable IMO. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 14:38, October 8, 2017 (UTC)

I have the lyrics to a song that, as far as I know, wasn't released on an album. An English and bilingual version was, but for some reason I had to hunt this one down like the most dangerous game. It is sung by a well known artist-- can I just throw it under her "Other Songs" section?

Song with no album?

I have the lyrics to a song that, as far as I know, wasn't released on an album. An English and bilingual version was, but for some reason I had to hunt this one down like the most dangerous game. It is sung by a well known artist-- can I just throw it under her "Other Songs" section?

Adding V(ボルト)

I have been trying to add this song but its not letting me add it due to the song title and i checked and I dont see any issues but its saying the title goes agasnt the guidlines--Dragonzeron (talk) 00:46, December 29, 2017 (UTC)

Album Reissue, Spotify Links, and Stylizing Question

First, should I add a single re-issue of two albums if it contains a total of three bonus tracks not included on any other release? I've seen similar discussion concerning singles and EPs, but I wasn't sure if this would be a different situation.

Second, with the reissue being on Spotify where the original albums are not, is it acceptable to add the Spotify links of the reissue to the song pages for the original album's tracks?

Third, I have the feeling the title "T・RIANGLE" is considered stylized and will need to be unstylized for the page name. How would I do so? XAedriane (talk) 07:14, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

Info on what to put on an artist page

Where do I find info on what is supposed to go on an artist page? For example, what (compilation, live etc.) albums should be mentioned. Seems full discographies with all such albums listed are not allowed.--91.49 (talk) 19:44, January 26, 2018 (UTC)

Album List & Non-Album Songs
--ES (talk) 19:50, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
Been there. Doesn't quite answer my questions. They tell me what albums get an album page and how to handle non-album songs only. Are red links on artist pages generally not allowed? I guess if an album page is allowed one should first create the album page and then link it on the artist page. Right? I haven't found a page that simply tells me what to put on an artist page and when.--91.49 (talk) 19:58, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
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