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Capitalisation of words preceded by abbreviated letter in French

Regardless of the current debate about capitalization, I would like to know what is LyricWikia's policy on capitalisation of words following an abbreviated article, especially in French. I also invite the admins to complete the "Page Names" documentation accordingly. Some examples are:

  • Joseph d'Anvers or Joseph D'Anvers ? (d' stands for de, meaning "of" or "from")
  • Le Temps De l'Amour or Le Temps De L'Amour ? (l' stands for le, meaning "the")

Tx. Jmmelko (talk) 14:48, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

A contraction is considered a word, so it should be "D'Anvers" and "L'Amour". — 6×9 (Talk) 08:23, January 6, 2015 (UTC)


From this page [] it says "The lyrics should always be transcribed as sung and reflect what is sung on the recording -- including repeating any even if these differ from the "official" lyrics published in the liner notes or elsewhere ... Repeated lines, stanzas, refrains, etc. should be included in full, rather than using notations such as "repeat", "4x", or "chorus". It is also not necessary to add notations such as "instrumental break."

  • Can someone please explain to me why this is a rule?
  • What's the purpose of having repeating lines?
  • Listeners are intelligent enough to know what someone is singing if the line is written down once. We don't need explicit explanation for repeating lines we've already heard and understood. It's clunky, makes the transcribing process longer and annoying, and is not necessary for understanding. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cblupo (talkcontribs), 20:07, January 17, 2015 (UTC).
Short & sweet answer: We have lyrics in over a hundred languages, do you know what chorus, refrain, bridge, hook, coda etc, is in every language? Didn't think so  ;)
The simplest possible instruction is to transcribe as sung, everybody knows cut & paste. --ES (talk) 06:48, January 18, 2015 (UTC) I paid for a full song, I want the full lyrics!

Letter "i" changed in Capital letter "l" when Bold?

It's something I noticed the first time yesterday, while I created the page AZEB Guys. When the write is Bold, the letter "i" is shown as "l". The "Belgium" is spelled "BelgIum", "Pieter" is spelled "PIeter", "Neirynck" is spelled "NeIrynck", "Vandepapeliere" is spelled "VandepapelIere" etc ... but "India" is spelled correctly ...

Checked in three browsers, with both monobook and wikia skins, and "i" appeared as "i", bold or not. Might be your browser, font, or resolution… Does the effect disappear when you zoom in? — 6×9 (Talk) 13:48, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
You're right, it's the zoom ... but I go the issue only in the words I listed but not with the words "India Dichtbij"--TormyVanCool (talk) 14:33, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Nonsense Lyrics

Is there a language tag for nonsense lyrics, or how should I handle it? The song in question is Mili:Sacramentum:Unaccompanied Hymn For Torino

EDIT: I found it, it's "Nonsense words" --Snowflakepixie (talk) 22:17, April 3, 2015 (UTC)

Song link bug?

I added the lyrics to a Judy Collins song called Tim Evans on her Maid of Sorrows album. I hadn't registered as a user of the site when doing this. The link to the song title remains red (page unavailable). However, when I click on the red song link it states the page with this title is already created. How can the link from the album page be corrected? --Rupples (talk) 03:33, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

OK - after a long struggle I've fathomed it out by deleting the existing link and then re-entering it! --Rupples (talk) 04:02, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

That was likely a cached version of the page. After a little while, it would've turned blue. You can also open the page for editing and then save it (no need to make any changes) to make it reload, as you found out! - OneTwoThreeFall talk 06:45, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Inexplicable Irreconcilable Edit Conflict

The page David Crowder Band:Make A Joyful Noise / I Will Not Be Silent previously had two different versions of this song on it. I tried to create a new page David Crowder Band:Make A Joyful Noise / I Will Not Be Silent (The Lime CD) to put the second version of these lyrics on it. (I've wiped them form the other article and saved them on my computer). But whenever I try to post the new page, I'm told that I have an edit conflict and the white page comes up. I can't then do anything with the white page; it just keeps looping back. What's going? Have i accidentally broken some rule? --RWDCollinson (talk) 20:19, November 10, 2015 (UTC)

We've noticed this bug just recently. Apparently it's an old problem that's resurfaced (something to do with the brackets in the title being the only difference in page name). As a workaround, create your second page at a bogus but slightly related title (without brackets), and then move it, it should work then. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 20:25, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
Created page David Crowder Band:Make A Joyful Noise / I Will Not Be Silent (The Lime CD), though not sure if diff is significant enough for a whole new page.  · Lichtweber talk service  20:36, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
Blast. I did as Patzilla777 suggested before I read this. Which version should stand? And how different does something need to be before there's a new page? If the policy is lyrics-as-sung I would've thought that any substantive difference would justify a new page, otherwise every page will end up with a long list of minor variations. --RWDCollinson (talk) 20:41, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
I redirected my page to proper page now. As for significance of differences - disputable. But this should be ok, I guess. Btw.: minor diffs should be noted in {{CreditBox}}, not on new page. hth,  · Lichtweber talk service  20:46, November 10, 2015 (UTC)
Hey, I've been having the same "Edit conflict" inexplicable problem while trying to create Saint Saviour:Woman Scorned (2010). Any possible solution? --Naytanneke (talk) 00:35, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
Create the album page under a different name, say Saint Saviour:Woman Scorned Temp. After the creation, move the page to the correct name Saint Saviour:Woman Scorned (2010) by renaming it (It's in the dropdown menu of the edit button). After you've done it, it would be kind if you could mark the former temporary page, which was created in the first place (and is now a redirect) with the {{Deletion}} template, so the admins can remove this residue. Good luck Smile --Fassbrause (talk) 01:10, December 25, 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Fassbrause! It worked wonders! Grin --Naytanneke (talk) 01:31, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

Lyrics are not shown

Hi there, I found that the lyrics for'm_Bleeding are not displayed in my Firefox nor in my Chrome (I'm on Linux). Other songs work well. I took a look at the lyrics in edit mode and they seem okay to me. -- Toaster666 (talk) 07:31, November 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hi. This seems to be a bug that strikes at random, may happen on any page. The only solution I have found is to touch the page (open for edit, then click publish without any editing). I use Safari/Chrome on OSX, thus not equipment related. This bug only appeared in the past few months. The solution is most likely to be found by .wikia admins. hth --ES (talk) 10:44, November 26, 2015 (UTC)


How does one add a link to the album/song footer? I can't find anywhere on the help pages, or indeed on any actual page, and yet an empty '' search seems to appear by default on every album/song page. --RWDCollinson (talk) 09:48, December 1, 2015 (UTC) is in the footers is for searching only. It was not defined for entering a link. hth --ES (talk) 18:33, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Help with Anime Song boxes?

Is there a help page on anime song boxes? I've looked on a few of them but don't seem to be able to figure out how they are supposed to be done at all... Kyoudou (talk) 13:31, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Translated Lyrics Ranking

Do the translated lyrics of a song need to have one of the ranking stars in the upper right-hand corner? For example Origa's Inner Universe has both romanized and English translated lyrics. However there are no stars in the corner showing the status of the pages. Do they need to have stars or is it fine if the original page has been checked? --Riyu-Hime (talk) 19:20, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

Ranking is only for the lyric page, not the translation/romanization; since they are not actually lyrics. --ES (talk) 19:41, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

No spaces after the colon in a page heading?

I've noticed that a lot of pages have no spaces after the colon in the heading where the artist and title of the song go. For example, the page "Apoptygma Berzerk:Non-Stop Violence", with Apoptygma Berzerk being the artist and Non-Stop Violence being the title. (I've since edited that page after making massive edits to the lyrics, and added a space after the colon because I felt it was necessary)

I have noticed this on many pages, and it really bothers me, considering it isn't proper grammar. There's always a space after a colon. Always (Mathematical ratios not included, of course). I haven't quite yet mastered the English language, but I know for a fact that there must be a space there, every time. I noticed that this is a widespread problem when I hit "random page" several times and saw that none of them had a space after the colon. Is this some unspoken rule in the Lyric Wikia? I couldn't find anything on it in the FAQ or anywhere else. My eye for grammar tends to notice things like this, and they bother me a lot. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Note: I noticed this even on this Help Desk page...yeah, please let me know if I broke the Apoptygma Berzerk page or something like that when I added the space.

It is emphatically not an unspoken rule – on the contrary it's well documented. See LyricWiki:Page Names (and Wikipedia:Namespace for general info). — 6×9 (Talk) 19:10, December 8, 2015 (UTC)

Same album/single name

The doubt I have found is that, for Yumi Shizukusa there is an album named CONTROL Your touch (2003), but there is also a single with the same name and same year. The single has songs on its tracklist which have never been released on any of her other albums, so its creation is justified. What I don't know is how to differentiate the single from the album when creating those articles. tia ~Steffy13~ > talk > contribs 02:35, December 11, 2015 (UTC)

If album and single have same name and year, single can have "(Single)" between name and year to differentiate. - Patzilla777 (talk - contributions) 11:56, December 11, 2015 (UTC)


since the wordsmith's shop is closed Do we have a category for poets? Any example pages available? Any documentation? How do I get around {{Song}}'s this song in performed by... when attributing songpages to poets? tia.--ES (talk) 14:52, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Poems aren't lyrics, so they have no place here (unless they're set to music, which makes them lyrics, which makes it a song, which makes sh wording okay).
Poems that sit between songs on an album are a different case (as are spoken introductions that have their own track marker). — 6×9 (Talk) 16:15, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. There are poets, whose poems have been set to song by a variety of artists. Do such poets get a page @ LW? --16:41, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
Currently not, though that might change if the root pages question ever gets resolved. In the meantime, I wouldn't encourage creating such pages, but I wouldn't necessarily delete existing pages either; maybe add a messagebox that the issue is under discussion and they shouldn't be taken as examples or precedents. — 6×9 (Talk) 16:51, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Claiming anonymous edits

I created some pages, but was not able to log in at the computer in question at the time. Naturally the edits show up as anonymous IP-based edits. I'd love to claim them to have them show up on my personal page. Is that possible, post-hoc? Fberger (talk) 10:47, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Technically, it seems to be possible, but you'd have to contact Wikia about it - we at LyricWikia can't do this. I have a feeling they might not be willing to do such a thing, considering it'd be difficult to prove it was you who made the edits. - OneTwoThreeFall talk 14:13, January 6, 2016 (UTC)
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